Ok since no one knows a way I have decided to develop a way.....so a new project is underway...if you are interested in joining this project email me and let me know...I need coders and people with a decent train of thought to help me with this....we also need to name it....then gizmo can give the project a channel on the irc server and we can get this underway...post name ideas here on the bored.... [Satan]