im a civil engineer and im drawing up road strata plans or OHS work floor drafts almost everyday for employers.
but never (bear in mind i occasionally work with architechts and theyr the gayest bunch of designers iv come across! no theory or grounding, only artsy-fartsy flair) have i come across something so.. well, in depth.
(or maybe its just my ignorance on the subject that makes me feel in awe)

erm, if anyone has more information on the amber box, kindly post where i may view it.
i googled it and guess what popped up?
UGN Security :p
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