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| | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 | By saying it was stupid you are making an argument. And if you don't give a [censored], why start the topic? The Mafia is a new thing in Russia. It did exist under communism but was hunted and left in the shadows. Now eighty percent of all Russian businesses pay 'protection' money to them. Yeltsin's shock therapy cut the legs out of the Russian economy. Their standard of living has fallen by more than half. And as I said earlier, Soviet 'communism' was Stalinism, not what communism really is. And no totalitarian system will last as long as the people know they don't have political freedom. America is different, they are a secret police state. And its people seem pretty dilusional about it.
"The constitutional republic is a dictatorship of our collective exploiters, the social democratic red republic is a dictatorship of their former allies."
-Karl Marx
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 536 Likes: 1 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 536 Likes: 1 | um.. the mafia being a new thing Russia? if by "new" you mean "been around for at least 60 to 70 years" then yeah.. i guess it would be "new".
"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,136 UGN Elite Poster | | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,136 | I started the topic because there was another thread in this forum about something completely different, and after a while, it led to people arguing about how communism sucks. So I created a new thread specifically for that. It's within my job context as a global moderator to ensure that threads stay reasonably on topic, and make accomodations for however they may branch out. I don't give a [censored] about this subject. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 | I ment mafia control. I said they had existed before then.
"The constitutional republic is a dictatorship of our collective exploiters, the social democratic red republic is a dictatorship of their former allies."
-Karl Marx
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 536 Likes: 1 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 536 Likes: 1 | but the mafia in Russia has been running the show for over 50 years. they are involved in everything over there.
"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 26 | No only since Yeltsin's privitizations have they run the show. Before they were struggling and in the shadows.
"The constitutional republic is a dictatorship of our collective exploiters, the social democratic red republic is a dictatorship of their former allies."
-Karl Marx
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