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#12020 - 11/07/03 10:16 PM WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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WHAT exactly ar eboxes and what do the different ones do?

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#12021 - 11/08/03 12:57 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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Boxes, generally speaking, are involved in phreaking. They do many differant things and are easy to tell the differance by name color.

They all do differant things, you'd have to look up the type of box to get what it does, theres literally thousands of differant types.

UGN Security's Archive will have a boxes section which will be heald apart from the standard hacking/phreaking areas since some boxes dont really involve phreaking or hacking.

This section should be up tonight with some basic boxes, i'll be sure to have up about 30 boxes for you to just poke through.
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#12022 - 11/08/03 09:54 PM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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are boxes illegal??

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#12023 - 11/09/03 05:12 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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depends on their use.. not illegal to make illegal to use 90% of the time
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#12024 - 11/10/03 08:42 PM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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how easy are they to make?

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#12025 - 11/12/03 04:41 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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Depends on the kind of box,
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#12026 - 11/12/03 08:26 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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Some it's as easy is cutting off a phone plug and soldering another connector type on, others can be more technical, then again most don't work anymore (except in remote locations) and some are generally just myths (like the Blotto Box), better off about learning about the phone system before you learn how to use little circuits that affect this system.
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#12027 - 12/06/03 08:11 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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what duzz a red box do?
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#12028 - 12/10/03 03:27 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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A red box is what was used to maniuplate pay phones. In short, you would make a call, the operator would ask you to insert the money. You then would play the tone of 25 cents and the call would go through, and you would get a free telephone call. On most pay phones now red boxes don't work, but sometimes you can find one that still works. If you need more info on how these were made or more on how they would work I'd be happy to e-mail it to you. I think its a little too much to post on the BBS here
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#12029 - 12/10/03 03:34 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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Also, someone if I am wrong please correct me. As I know you will.
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#12030 - 12/10/03 03:39 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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Originally posted by Shinobi:
A red box is what was used to maniuplate pay phones. In short, you would make a call, the operator would ask you to insert the money. You then would play the tone of 25 cents and the call would go through, and you would get a free telephone call. On most pay phones now red boxes don't work, but sometimes you can find one that still works. If you need more info on how these were made or more on how they would work I'd be happy to e-mail it to you. I think its a little too much to post on the BBS here
Not exactly, you can hear the differances in tones and frequency of dropping quarters in... Old payphones have un-muted mouthpieces which you play the tones; newer ones have muted.
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#12031 - 12/10/03 04:35 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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I'm sorry to sound stupid but I am not understanding what exactly is incorrect about my description of a red box. Are you referring to the part about me describing it as a tone and not a frequency. Or me saying that you can still find pay phones that this works on?

Or are you referring to the entire description of it?

once again sorry for sounding stupid about this, It may be because I am still sick and my brain is clogged with mucus.
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#12032 - 12/10/03 05:24 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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You don't play it to an operator...
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#12033 - 12/10/03 06:38 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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ahhhhh I see, sorry that was a miswording on my part.

I now see that I should have worded it. after you made the red box, you would dial the number the telephone would request payment, then you would use the red box to emulate money being inserted into the machine.

sorry for any misunderstanding I may have caused.
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#12034 - 12/11/03 02:37 AM Re: WHAT EXACTLY ARE BOXES
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can sum1 tell me how 2 make a red box
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