and I've got 7 tutorials somewhere...they're over on RRFN.

I've looked at JAVA before I started programming in any other language. Now, knowing C/C++, VB, COBOL, PowerHouse, I don't get a grip on JAVA still. Is it just me or does the fact that people keep saying it's easy to learn not make it ture? I've had a look at JAVA and now being taught JAVA I still don't get it. Right now it's not so much syntax as is the difficulty it is to use the damn source code. If you want to change the source on another system then you have to go through a long drawn out process where I am currently stuck. Why can't I just open Sun ONE and open a source file and compile it? Why does it have to do everything the same way every time to be able to compile or run? Why do I non-cescently bitch about things I can't do? Noone, me anyway, will ever know.