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#21644 - 10/16/02 12:42 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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check it out people....this shit actually affects me. i live all of 12 miles away from DC, the last guy killed was at the Home Depo a couple miles away. its crazy as hell. everybody is all freaked out and edgy. (i was right) 10 shot, 8 dead, 2 seriously wounded. hes soposidly driving around in either a chevy white astro van with west VA tags or a white box truck. i think 2, maybe 3 kills ago a cop was near by givving some guy a ticket and the cop hear the shot and saw the person fall all of 50 yds away from him. hes starting to get sloppy. still no one saw the killer but people have seen the astro van at many of the killings. many major highways have been shut down for miles and DC already had one of the worst traffic situations in the country. the cops were getting hundreds of calls yesterday every time a car back fired or a window broke. people are saying that there are 2 people, one shooting, one driving. odds are that there going to go down fighting. theres what i know, from someone in the neiborhood. half the people killed have been at places i have been to before.

if this continues, there going to cancel my schools football season, last game was canceled because of it.

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#21645 - 10/16/02 12:45 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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lets not get stuck on the fact that he shot a kid, to turn this lets look at all the incidents of children commiting murders and such

he's just saying, that regardless of race, age, or sex you could be a target.

now lets also not get hung up on the fact that these people could be nice or that they're kids or whatever. I keep seeing these people sobbing on tv about how some guy that took one to the kidneys was such a nice guy...blah blah blah shut up!

I mean honestly, HE'S PICKING THEM AT RANDOM he doesn't care how high your karma is, you get in his crosshairs you die. End of story. Media's just hungry for sound bites

also, his records pretty decent, he's like 13 shots, 9 kills, 3 wounded or something

1 shot went into a window, 9 kills and then 3 wounded

13/9/3 is a pretty decent record if you ask me

now to learners comment about a scope, so far he's been hitting people at like 150yrds

now with a .223 you could probably do that open sights with a spoter, and being a decent shot...that would explain why he's taking body mass shots

oh, and last night he got a women in the head, moving target

I'm not really convinced it's Al-Quida, in fact I hope it's not...Bush and his Thugs could jump right on gun control bullshit if it was

But lets consider the posiblity of Al-Quida, could this be the next step in their plan? Snipers in range of the major cities around our country? doesn't seem like a bad idea to me....

the logic of the gas stations could make sense, but I think the idea that they're standing there for some time makes more sense. Just like the women he got on the bench

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Members of the Guardian Angels and the New Black Panther Party are on the pump patrol this morning. Members of the volunteer public safety organization are pumping gas at stations near the beltway off Route 1. Four of the 10 sniper attacks have taken place at gas stations located within feet of an interstate or major roadway.

http://www.nbc4.com/news/1718973/detail.html

anyway, all in all I'm kinda in awe of this guy, finaly a serial killer that doesn't just muder in some sloppy, messy way, then hit as many and as fast as he can...get his serial killer title and then get caught

he's playing it quite well, watching his ass, and watching the media work for him...."loose lips sink ships"
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#21646 - 10/16/02 01:14 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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I seriously doubt it is a he as much as a them. To clear out this many times this soon he has to have help. I agree it is random. The kid leads me to think it is noe Al-Quida. Reason is killing kids will not help thier cause.

Al-Quida claim to represent a religious world. Killing kids would do nothing but pull support away from that. Now I know kids died on 9/11 but they didn't target them. Ever hear of a terrorist targeting a school? How much security is in a school. It would be an easy target.

I agree more gun controll will probably come out of this... Shame realy. Another thing about Al-Quida is I think we would have heard something by now. I mean they usally claim thier work. Even if subtle. Like see what happens to infedles.

I doubt they would claim to be god. Of course I'm sure I could be wrong. I am stuck on the kid because he went out of his way to target a kid. He was targeting a school...
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#21647 - 10/16/02 01:23 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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Registered: 10/08/02
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As for the sloppiness of a cop being right there, I am sure that was intentional. There was also a cop present by the Home Depot shooting. He is looking for a higher thrill. That is why I suggested kids and women. Now he may not target them, but he will surely try to up the adrenaline rush. I don't know how much more he can do before it controls him.

Seriously how long can he increase the rush he gets by using just one bullet and one person.

Also, I wasn't sure where the Tarot card was placed, but it was evidently very close to near where the boy was shot. Yet another example of needing a bigger rush.

Also the Home Depot intersection was supposed to be one of the busiest in that area.

May sound sick, but I am very interested to see how this "sniper" ups the ante.

Bush commented that no new gun laws will become of this.

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The president also questions the need for new gun laws in general, Fleischer added.

"How many laws can we really have to stop crime if people are determined in their heart to violate them no matter how many there are or what they say?" he asked.


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#21648 - 10/16/02 01:28 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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lol, very sick...i cant wait either...who knows, maybe he'll show up at my school and pull out an asult rifle...you all talk but it dosnt effect you at all...if someone i know gets shot im gonna be pissed. on the other hand, im still rooting for the killer. im always on the bad guys side.

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#21649 - 10/16/02 02:11 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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Registered: 03/02/02
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Hmmm I have always had great interests in Serial Killers and I am personally still searching for info as most of the information posted here is from CNN :-P and I aint the biggest fan of CNN.

But well some intresting theories, will "participate" soon!
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#21650 - 10/16/02 03:45 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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Here is a blog where the blogger has some good critical analysis and profile of the sniper. Goto Oct 14th.

http://bias.blogfodder.net/

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#21651 - 10/16/02 04:41 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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This guy will eventually let himself get caught. Yes, let himself.
He loves the rush, he loves seeing his exploits in the news, he loves the guessing. Eventually the only way tpo "up the ante" will be to let people know who he is. What's the point if you never get credit for it?

As for what he does next . . . the media says what he's never done, what he can't do, he does it. Probably get's great kicks from it.

Anyways, I'm willing to guarantee that he does, sooner or later, let himself get caught. (he's already leaving more evidence, makes the chase more exciting.)
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#21652 - 10/16/02 05:30 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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$500,000 reward on his head! damn. lady killed yesterday has been confirmed his victim. 9 dead, 2 wounded.

i gotta disagree with you TBG. I think hes gotten into this so much that theres no way hes just going to let it end. when they catch him, and they will catch him unless he stops killing,and we all know that will not happen, he will kill as many cops as possible before they kill him. hes gonna go down fighting.

interesting facts about his random victims: lady killed survived cancer...you cant excape death. she was also involved with the FBI and she was shot in a stationarry car. a black guy killed had 6 children, one of which was albino. so hes a really really white black guy. "see that freckle? thats my real skin color. really I'm black. what, you dont believe me?"

They now have 2 descriptions of the killers van, one is a chevy astro van with a roof rack and a brocken left tail light, the other is a dodge van with a roof rack

I was over by 7 corners(place of most recent killing) on saturday....im there all the time

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#21653 - 10/16/02 10:32 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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and i hell agree with you ohfuk, he's in deep shit by now, and he probably ain't even thinking about giving up.

damn i'm just still thinking to come to a close conclusion about this guy or something, too many theories, i don't know, but most of his victims are killed in standing position i think, and most of em close or in their cars. But one thing i don't undestand is, why kids damn, why kids ?

Now lots of people everywhere are making lots of good theories and analysis about this case but still there isn't so much stuff to lead to the serial killer.

And now i'm wondering, in the beggining he just left a note, than he was leaving no evidence and now he start leaving em, well maybe as TBG said he's trying to make the case more existing. But hell yeah now i'm really convinced that someone is helping him, even if not in killing, probably on escaping or something (i'd say the van he's using is the dodge one with a roof rack ohfuk).

What do you think guys, does he have a specail method or something to choose his victims or he just gets out for hunting and shots the first one he sees ? i think he has a way or something how he selects his next victims... what do u think ?

Last nite i saw a movie pretty much like this one, there was this fucking crazy serial killer, he was killings women, he was choosin his victims by bussiness cards and the motherfucker than killed them, after he killed em he was dressing them pretty good to make em look like someone dunno old special dolls, and he was leaving them in parks and so on in a sitting position, the motherfucker was trying to transform them to his favourite dolls, damn such crazy shits ...

well i kinda got outta topic, sorry for that.

see ya

P.S. hope they'll get this motherfucker soon.

oh and yes, ohfuk if i were in your place man i'd get the fuck outta there, 7 corners away, are you fuckin crazy ???
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#21654 - 10/16/02 10:44 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
jonconley Offline
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At the Home Depot shooting there was a witness that saw two darker skinned men (whatever that means) in a white van that tried to quickly cut into his lane and leave a parking lot nearby. The eyewitness said they looked very agitated and he felt as though they were ready to get out of the van at the anger from not getting in front of him. They didn't wait for him, they quickly went around a chinese restaurant and out the back.

So we have atleast 3 people that saw him in the van and shoot from it, and one detailed witness that saw both their faces up close.

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#21655 - 10/16/02 11:15 AM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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.. and they still can't catch him !!!

so what do u think, is there one serial killer, or two of em, or they work together ? they shoot from their van and they probably change those fuckin vans often. I just wonder is the same guy shootin or they're changing the roles ???

this is gettin pretty nasty guys...
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#21656 - 10/17/02 11:53 PM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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The governor's race between a Republican who wants to roll back the federal assault weapons ban, and a foam at the mouth anti gunner (and Democrat) is very close in gun grabbing Maryland.
The timely appearance of a random sniper, using at least one of Clinton's darling assault rifles to kill Marylanders, could affect the election.
Some facts for your consideration:
Maryland is the home of THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY AT FORT MEAD. This is the infamous agency who can read your name tag from orbiting and geo-stationary satellites, while monitoring your phone, fax and e-mails, as depicted in the movie, "Enemy Of The State."

MD is a defacto territory of the District Of Columbia, where numerous diplomats, govt agents, high ranking service personnel and politicians reside in relative safety outside the district. DC is a black jungle, as is Baltimore. But, in between are some of the lily whitest suburbs I've ever seen. Want to guess who lives there?
Maryland's law enforcement used the dirtiest of tricks the night before a referendum to create their "Saturday Nite Special Review Board", which created a paid committee to review which guns are safe and high quality for sale to citizens in the state. Presumably when a bad person points and fires at the cops, the state wanted to assure that a reliable, high quality handgun would go BOOM. To effect this, cops used a SUBPOENA to put phone bank workers against the wall and disrupt the get out the vote effort on the eve of the crucial vote.
Maryland has ballistic fingerprinting of all new handguns now sold in the state.
Maryland scoffed at Project Exile, preferring to put the onus for crime on guns, rather than criminals.
If a liberal, antigun state changes course and elects a pro 2nd amendment governor, it would reverse the progressive federalization of the territory, and repudiate Bill Clinton's anti-gun agenda. This could happen, if Maryland's Chesapeake Bay waterfowlers actually vote, instead on sitting on their apathetic asses. But, most are Fuddsters who in the past didn't feel threatened because the shotgun raids haven't begun...yet. But, no one knows if the gun issue will cost the DEMS MD, the way it cost Gore The Whore House. It just ain't the Democratic way to rely on faith in the people, especially since Gore lost Tennessee and Arkansas.
It would seem that the primary beneficiaries of these random murders are; gun control groups, who are desperate to hang on to their conquests; govt employees and spooks, who wish to live in a safe, suburban "federal" zone; the police, because they want to monopolize the power of life and death and, the Lt. Governor, who is sweating the outcome of the governors race. Her family has accrued more experience than any other dynasty at turning tragedy to political advantage. She is Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, daughter of Robert Kennedy. The Kennedy family learned long ago how to cinch elections. John Kennedy's dad said, "I'll pay for a win in West Virginia, but not a landslide." Thanks to the mob and goon unionists, who spread around Old Joe's blood money, John Kennedy was elected. His assassination virtually assured Bobbie Kennedy's election as president, but then he was murdered. Both murders keep Ted in office, because of the collective guilt that is skillfully employed against voters in his home state of Mass.
Could it be that instead of hiring knee cap removers like the WVA election, the Kennedy's have a Mossad or other intelligence trained operative winning votes with a .223? If there is a plan, it would certainly explain why the shooter isn't concerned about capture. The MD police are his allies. And every fed and gun grabbing cop knows that, if you want to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs. None of the broken eggs have been cops. Collateral damage, I believe they call it. Unless Kennedy Townsend wins the governors, race, she won't be president someday. Many powerful people are pulling for this sniper.
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#21657 - 10/18/02 08:09 PM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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update-a key witness turns out to be fake and cops are basically back to square one...no evidence

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#21658 - 10/18/02 08:23 PM Re: Sniper around D.C. area
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If a liberal, antigun state changes course and elects a pro 2nd amendment governor, it would reverse the progressive federalization of the territory, and repudiate Bill Clinton's anti-gun agenda. This could happen, if Maryland's Chesapeake Bay waterfowlers actually vote, instead on sitting on their apathetic asses. But, most are Fuddsters who in the past didn't feel threatened because the shotgun raids haven't begun...yet.
Actually {me realises you copied this} The bay folks do vote, however Baltimore seems to carry most of the vote. Also southern Maryland won the vote a few years back... Guess what, There was a re-count, and dead people up north seemed to vote. Democrat won after the re-count.

Baltimore is democrat. Southern is Republican. Baltimore is north, Southern is.... errrr South.
North has more numbers and crooks
South says sure come get our guns
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