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#27704 - 12/06/02 07:02 AM Who made the better ADMIN team?
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This question is out of sheer curiosity, all poll users are anonymous and cannot be seen by anyone (including me). Note though, if you make a post it can be seen by everyone (your post, not your poll answer).
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#27705 - 12/06/02 07:08 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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that's an obvious answer: gizmo, curse, silentrage and unreal! why? because they're fun, obviously do a better job with the board... and are 4 of the sexiest bitches! yay!
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#27706 - 12/06/02 07:39 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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YES! I AM A SEXY BITCH BAYBEE!
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#27707 - 12/06/02 07:54 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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hehe.. oh- btw: when i moved out here to colorado, my cell phone company apparently doesn't have service out here. so i had to cancel it! so right now, i really have no phone!
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#27708 - 12/06/02 08:14 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Awwe, no phone? I really wanted to talk to you too ...
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#27709 - 12/06/02 12:14 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I personally liked and respected everyone of you guys except Optix. And I am happy to see Gizmo running things, but I am happy as long as UGN Security is going good. Kudos to all of you. Eh, even optix before he abused power

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#27710 - 12/06/02 12:20 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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yeah i'm actually pretty happy with gizmo curse silent rage and unreal...i didnt really like optix or ice dogg though
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#27711 - 12/06/02 12:23 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Heh thanks guys . I just like to think of what optix last told me at times "Gizmo, when you run UGN Security into the ground I'll buy it from you for $20" lol... Funny how we now have stronger affiliations, more options, and a closer staff .
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#27712 - 12/06/02 02:00 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I liked Icedog. He was knowlegeable. He didn't care for me too much I don't think. However, he did take time to help people. He taught me a bit on linux.

Shit he was the first person who posted an answer to my question here at UGN Security. Optix was good for stiring shit and getting people to post. However I think he went too far toward the end. When he was telling me what I should have on my site... YEA! Banning anyone who said peep, thank for the traffic man!

Beard.. He seemed cool enough. Hardly knew him though. I rember someone found UGN Security's logo on another site and posted a link to it. (This was in the final days of the old UGN Security) Everyone was talking about trashing the site, leagal action etc etc etc....

Beard came in and said we were all too hard on him and it was kinda flatering. I rember that most about beard. I gained a bit of respect for him in that post.

Gizzy, heh well he humbled me once. Fuck it, he was a royal dick and I couldn't do shit about it. However he also showed me he has a fair side and it all worked out. Now I rather like him and the way UGN Security is running. Seems a bit freeer these days.

Curse, shit he still has mods on RRFN.

SilentRage, still has global mods on RRFN

I like the way it runs now better, But never dissliked the old UGN Security either. I voted for now since the site has improved and is growing. Given the events of the last year or 2 and new laws, I think Gizzy is doing an awsome job.

Oh and Gizzy... I know how you did it.
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#27713 - 12/06/02 03:53 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Well, I can't wait to hear your theory... You have my # when you wanna call lol...
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#27714 - 12/06/02 03:57 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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ice dog was cool.... when optix wasnt around heh...

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#27715 - 12/06/02 05:01 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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#27716 - 12/06/02 05:29 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Gizmo, he figured it out. Cause I got the sign of an attempt

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#27717 - 12/07/02 06:30 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Lol, so far, 9/1 we're the better admin team :x..
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#27718 - 12/09/02 02:07 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I want the people who voted for the previous staff to speak up...
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#27719 - 12/09/02 02:40 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I agree. C'mon people...we're not going to ban you for speaking your mind.

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#27720 - 12/09/02 02:45 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I can't believe they voted for optix... He was the hitler of UGN Security... For gods sakes, he admined tron!
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#27721 - 12/09/02 05:43 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Waaaaahhh.... you're the admin now, so who gives a fuck? It doesn't matter

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#27722 - 12/09/02 07:19 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I think its because he wants to make a point. Like why should vote for those people, where the best is me (Gizmo)

I don't know BlackBeard and that, so I can't make a clear judgement. So far Gizmo, Curse, etc... rocks

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#27723 - 12/09/02 08:47 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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I want the people who voted for the previous staff to speak up...
Not I, Although Opitx Made Me Laugh A Few Times. Something About His "I AM GOD" Ego That Was Always Good For "How Pathetic" Laugh. If I Remember Correctly He Wasn't The Friendliest Of The Admins ... I Like How This UGN Security Is More Open With Fellow Members, No Matter How Ignorant They May Be (Not to Mention All The Nice Affiliations - Promodtech., N3tmask) The First Time I Came To UGN Security I Was Pretty Newbie-ish. I Actually Found The Link To This Site For The First Time At happyhacker.org When I Was Getting Into Unix/Wargames And The Like More And More (Basically When I Got Sick Of How Windows Was Treating Me) I Was Here For The Last Couple Months Of The Old UGN Security, If Memory Serves. And Gizmo, I Think I Remember That Offer From Optix. I Remember A bunch Of Shit Happening And Then One Day I Came Into The Board, Tried Logging in And It Said User Doesn't Exist, And I Had To Re-Register. Ah ... It's All Comming Back To Me Now, It Must Have Been, What, Less Than A Year Ago? lol
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#27724 - 12/09/02 10:51 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Feb will be a year ...
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#27725 - 12/09/02 11:01 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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God Asteos...how about not capitalizing every word, huh?

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#27726 - 12/10/02 02:54 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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this is so stupid. you guys make me reply now. everyone will vote for gizmo, but they totally miss the point. there is no "good" or "bad". you guys dont know how much work UGN Security was, and yes, people have a life outside of cyberspace (although gizmo seems to be here 24/7). right now, UGN Security didnt differ from what it was before Gizmo bought it. oh wait, yes it is. now besides all the dumb newbie questions i also see shit like "buy tickets for the UGN Security gathering" and "fund raiser". is it just me or can you say "sell-out"? hell yeh i know it costs alot to run a webpage along with server etc., but before that, UGN Security was free. people who actually knew what they were doing did everything to bring you further. We participated in wargames. We wrote exploitz. We passed around scan lists. We helped each other out. We did coding projects. And you know what, we still do. although guys like Nexus and frontline are gone, they still can come back after months and the respect is still there. you wont understand it, dont worry. none of you knew them anyway.

We also looked after the board, beard took alot of time to keep UGN Security 24/7 available. he knew what he was doing. this vote shows what pathetic way UGN Security goes, its like before, ass-kissing everywhere. the unix/linux section is dead, sorry to say kids, but thats what hacking is about. no, "hacking" a webpage isnt really hacking at all, sorry to burst your bubble. i doubt anyone could do it anyway here, or they get caught way too fast.

Gizmo: no, "hacking" yabb isnt really cool, it just shows that the newbies and users here can be impressed really quick. go and check bugtraq out people, lots of exploits going around there. he just uses other people works.

hacking can be done in several ways. coding (i think SR is the only one doing projects here), helping the open source community (like hkzknight who writes linus torvalds wrong? i guess not), testing the security of products and/or providing a place that the community needs. this is hacking.

well, but i judge again maybe too fast, i dont miss UGN Security, its still cool to come back and see whats going on, but its not the place to be when you reach a certain level of knowledge. oh yeh, btw gizmo, write at least my name correct.

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#27727 - 12/10/02 03:23 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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UGN Security is free, it will always be free. We believe that if users like something they would like to help in keeping it running.

Hacking YaBB isn't elite, it was done as a joke, to show toat YaBB isn't as "secure" as everyone thinks that it is.

I'm not here 24/7, I view it when I get a chance, when I'm not working. And no, I didn't use other people exploits, its amazing how much you jump to conclusions, ask sum, what we've been using is what we developed.

The money raised for the UGN Security Gathering goes FOR the gathering, there is no proffit to be made since not too many users are planned to show up, its there to give users something to do to get to know the other users in real life.

I am more than abliged to share "scanned lists", perhaps you should wait on your conclusions until the new design is completed. Its a ways from being finnished, but when it is, there will be more user available sections.

Oh and ice, its nice to know that you still stop by, but we're still recovering from Optix trashing the majority of the affiliates. If Optix wouldn't have done what he did, we'd have been a lot larger a lot quicker.

As a note final note, I wanted you as staff, you were a great member to have around, I personally loved having you around.

Good day.
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#27728 - 12/10/02 04:06 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Originally posted by Mojo:
well, but i judge again maybe too fast, i dont miss UGN, its still cool to come back and see whats going on, but its not the place to be when you reach a certain level of knowledge. oh yeh, btw gizmo, write at least my name correct.
This is the only thing I felt like replying too. Except for Nexus. He's a good guy. Couldn't help me with my global hooks but I like him anyway. I remember frontline, but I don't know him very well.

You're right, after a certain point of knowledge, things do get a bit more dull around here. I find myself involving myself in the off topic, general, and newbie forums less and less. Lots of people have moved on who I've enjoyed keeping company with. I don't have much desire to make new friends, except the few - precious few - who join IRC and show themselves knowledgeable.

I'm not quite sure what keeps me around. Sense of duty? Loyalty? Maybe just out of habit? The precious few friends who ARE still here? Really can't say. Perhaps Mojo can identify with me. He's really impressed me about how he just doesn't leave. With all of his complaining he just never does. Despite my silent complaints, and some crap I've recieved in the past - I didn't leave either. You can't drag us away.

When I made my post on "let those who voted for the previous staff speak up" I had a sneaky feeling you were still around. Glad to hear ya. I don't imagine you rejoining the IRC with how you and Giz dont' get along - but perhaps you can keep an eye on the *nix forum to answer questions. You said it is dead, but I think that was an exaggeration. It never was a very happening forum - kinda has it's moments. Shame Energy and RevNinjaSox hasn't been around lately. They shared their knowledge there. But I'm sure we could use somebody who has a bit more knowledge there rather than hkzKnight. *cough*
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#27729 - 12/10/02 10:48 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Speaking of ass-kissing... Anyone who kisses my ass will be pick axed or sandblasted to death and/or banned...
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#27730 - 12/11/02 01:30 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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dammit curse! i love kissing your ass.. literally... i love it.

gizmo.. you shouldn't compare optix to hitler dammit.. i love hitler! he's not such a bad guy, if you can get past that stupid mustache thing he had going on. hehehehehe...
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#27731 - 12/11/02 12:04 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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rofl, true, hitler is my god, i was just sayin in the "public" eye, to jews... heh... I'm like hitler, only its all about my beard...
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#27732 - 12/12/02 10:04 AM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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So if we can't kiss Curse's ass, can we call him a queer motherfucking asshole and an immature prick :-D

I like the Team Gizmo alot better, the site has grown alot and things seem to be running relativly smoothly (Except for DD's god complex on IRC)

UGN Security should now take over the Hot Topic and burn it to the ground
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#27733 - 12/12/02 08:43 PM Re: Who made the better ADMIN team?
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Hmm, I'd have to say I like this admin team better because I know the admin's better and I'm more knowledgable now, so I can contribute more. I never had any problems with Optix, Beard or Ice, I liked them all. I especially looked up to Ice, he knows SO much and could almost always answer my questions. But I would have to agree with Mojo (Ice Dog if I'm not mistaken?) about UGN Security now. He said people aren't working on as many projects such as coding, finding exploits and so on. I think this is true. I know SR works on a lot of coding projects, I work on some too (not to the high skill that SR does, but some decent programs), but I don't see a lot. I'm guilty of this too. I'd love to see more people posting exploits they've found, programs they've made, texts they have written and so on. That would make UGN Security THE ultimate site.
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