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A funny book raggin on Communism: Utopia by Thomas More.


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#28818 04/02/03 06:25 PM
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wonder if you all people knows what communism is...do you know it's not based on dictatorship? i've read some [censored] saying it's like direct democracy. as far as i know, ppl in here pretty much are a bunch of democrats, yes? please explain the differance.


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No one ever said it was a dictatorship. We know what it is, thanks.

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then i must ask, wats wrong with it exactly? is it because of who the economy would be run? is it because the boringness of not getting to be special or maybe greed? i don't know. i think every country should be like switzerland.=)


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Why should every country be like Switzerland? Are you from Switzerland? If not, do you know how the economy and society works there?

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blah blah blah.. people in here democrats? yeah.. seems some are. but ya know what? communism is the most extreme form of socialism. democrats are usually liberal. (note: i said USUALLY not ALWAYS) liberals are socialists. so i don't know exactly what you were trying to say there with that. oh well.

[censored] communism. fascism all the [censored] way.


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Well socialism is just complete liberalism. Communism is the idea that socialism can only be achieved through a violent overthrow of the government. Democracy (as in the Democractic party) is more moderate liberalism. pergism all the [censored] way.

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Pergism is unrealistic. (har har)

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The reason why communism is so not cool is because the government controls everything. Sure, you may THINK it controls greed, cause people can't start up a business and make profits and stuff. However, what about the government? They're in complete control with no checks and balances like a democracy to help prevent corrupt governments. A select few are rich mother [censored] and the rest play out an uncreative life.

The other reason is because innovation is discouraged. Let's say you thought up some new invention - but it has a few quirks - but if you get it going, it'll be really great for people to use. However, in a communist society where's the motivation to create it? The government will seize control over the project and you don't get to see [censored] for it. So nothing happens and technology progresses much slower than it would otherwise.

That's the whole "free" mantra that americans like to chant. We are free to own our houses and own our cars and own our businesses and take our income and buy whatever we want, go wherever we wanna go. If you gripe about how much control the U.S. government has over our lives NOW... Big brother will be a heck of a lot bigger and pushy if it was communism.


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yeah. SR's reasons work too smile


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check out the USA, the proof that you can't let the stupid people (read most people) loose. 11000 killings a year. canada, like 65 or something, or japan 30 or something. i don't think the american way works.cause it doesn't work for everybody.

sry if i'm out of topic.
communism really suck because of hard control. american democracy suck because of no control. 'cept of the media control.


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yeah, you are off topic. Japan is under a democracy, not communism. Don't try to bring up facts that have nothing to do with the debate. That only has to do with gun control laws and various other laws, not to mention the way a person is raised, and the culture they grow up in.

Guess what, canada is a democracy too.

Don't diss the system just because there's 11000 killings a year. Totally irrelevent.


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I hereby move the first topic to the debate forum.


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