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#29097 - 03/22/03 06:27 AM Re: War
jonconley Offline
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Registered: 10/08/02
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I see UN violations, I never disputed that. I just pointed out the US has violations also. And the US has been deemed by the world (Security Council) as commiting terrorist acts. Has Iraq?

And if you would like I can point out speeches in the UN around Resolution 678 that speak of the US initial involvement in aiding Iraq invasion into Kuwait.

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#29098 - 03/22/03 10:08 AM Re: War
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Registered: 03/10/02
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cold sunn.. i think i have a problem with everything you said in that last post of yours. ok.. first off.. takes too much time/energy/money to find alternative sources for oil. iraq already has a smooth operation set up. we aren't that fucking stupid. would we rather take years developing sites in other countries or just take it from a country that already has it figured out? duhhh.. the second one. and sure, it may be selfish. but wtf? that's the US for you.

next: North Korea being more of a threat to Russia and China? umm... are you really that dumb or just pretending? i hope you're just faking it. cuz North Korea wants nothing more than to see the US crushed.
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North Korea says it is preparing for total war with the United States and has threatened a pre-emptive strike if Washington sends extra forces to the region.
uhh.. that's what i thought! here's the link to the entire story if you want it:
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/newstories/RANewsStories_779394.htm
Kim Jong (leader of North Korea in case you don't know) said that he considered the US going to war with Iraq as a terrorist attack on N.Korea. yeah.. i don't know how he reasoned that away to himself either. but he that's his stand on the whole issue.

next: the US aren't being the 'evil police'? c'mon. that's what the US is known for! sticking their noses into everyone's business and killing people in the meantime. this whole iraq situation deals with just the oil. that is why we're doing it now. because this Bush actually has the balls and a decent cover story in order to go to war just for oil. i just wish he'd admit it. but anyone with half a brain could figure out that one.
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#29099 - 03/22/03 03:40 PM Re: War
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Underground
i really don't know where this is all going but i passed through a war time 3 years ago and i really wouldn't go to past through it again for anything on the world... thanks to NATO we're saved. Now the same thing bombings are happening in IRAQ.. but of course for different reasons, and i'm really sorry for the civilians there, they must be scared to death....

those who've passed a war, they know what kind of a feeling that is...

hope no one ever feels goes through that...
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#29100 - 03/23/03 12:50 AM Re: War
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I wouldn't call us the evil police. If we didn't do anything, any kind of police action ever... Imagine what the world would be... Everyone would be at peace... Communism would reign all, genocide would spread... The population would mos def decrease, especially the small countries people want to test nukes on. Nothing isn't perfect... In around the 20s/30s Barsalona had a utopia then... It was run through ways of Anarchy... If only life could be like that... True i guess, but it lasted no more then 10 yrs.. It fell apart hard.... Militaries are puppets... The people in militarys aren't bad... The puppet masters is who we need to fear... (entertainers... Politicans). I won't say this war is bad but I won't say it's the best idea either... I don't think anyone here has a wrong or dumb answers because this all through how you feel. We is the borg when you need em
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#29101 - 03/23/03 05:36 AM Re: War
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I agree with you hkz, especially when you said that "I don't think anyone here has a wrong or dumb answers because this all through how you feel" that's true. But i don't think that it's on us to judge if the war idea is the best choice or not, i'm saying this because the people who started this war are probably much more smarter then we are about these things and they know how these things go so they probably know what they're doing rite ?...

I just hope civilians won't sufer from this...
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#29102 - 03/24/03 04:03 PM Re: War
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hkzknight: i doubt that communism would "reign all". although some countries have tried for communism, it has never worked on a large scale. not once in the history of the world has communism succeeded. so we don't ever have to worry about that.
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#29103 - 03/25/03 04:08 PM Re: War
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I know, just giving an example and reflecting back to the cold war... It's inhuman, no way people could live with communism but neway... See I think wars should be fought with hot naked super models and porn stars... It would be hard to shot them...
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#29104 - 03/25/03 05:53 PM Re: War
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Registered: 08/31/02
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the war in iraq is a war for oil, which is why im for it. gas prices will drop and the economy will improve. the rich will get richer and the average person will save 5 bucks a week on gas. and those 5 bucks is enough to get my full suport. blood for oil? whats the ratio?

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#29105 - 03/25/03 06:05 PM Re: War
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 536
Loc: CO
hkzknight: hahaha. wars fought with naked models... nice idea. i'm sure all you guy folk would love that. me.. not so much. it be super easy for me to shoot 'em. muahahaha. then i'd steal their shoes. (porn stars and super models have great shoes. and even though you said they'd be naked, they would still be wearing their shoes.)

ohfuk: agreed. the war is for oil. and yes, it will be great when the US controls it just because then i won't have to pay out my ass just to fill my car up. yay! but ya know what... with all that blood we're spilling to get the oil, we should just have a little fun with it and mix it in with the oil. so not only will we be driving around burning up gas, we're burning the blood of people we don't even know! muhahahaha. wow... i guess that's kind of sick. but that's me
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#29106 - 03/26/03 04:51 AM Re: War
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damnit fleshy.. that was really sick, mixin up blood and oil ? lol, who knows maybe it would increase the speed hehehe...

ohfuk: Ratio 10:5

tada
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#29107 - 03/26/03 05:38 PM Re: War
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Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 524
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Ok, I just read this page 'cause I'm such a lazy-ass and I'm tired of war talks. Personally, I've given into the superior tactics of the Bush administration. I have a general contempt for anything French and I'm still actively seeking an "I(HEART)WAR" button to show my patriotism. But I have 2 problems with things I've read.

A: Fleshy, SEARCHING FOR ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF ENERGY? SEARCHING?! ARE YOU INSANE?! There are many alternative energy sources in the world: wind, solar, nuclear, you can run your damn car with small amounts of diesal and soybeans with just some slight engine modifications. The reason it seems like it takes so much time, money, effort, etc. is because that's what the oil companies want you to believe.

B: Communism is, in theory, the most effective and fair form of government. Everything is equal. However, in practice, it sucks. As Churchill said "Communism is the equal sharing of hardships" (I can't remember the exact words).

That's just something I wanted to point out.

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#29108 - 03/26/03 06:13 PM Re: War
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Registered: 03/01/02
Posts: 860
Loc: KCRQ
bp, you fuck stick, how about 2:1? :x

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#29109 - 03/26/03 07:52 PM Re: War
fleshwound Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 536
Loc: CO
dashocker: first off, hahahahahaha! you're funny. i know a lot about other forms of renewable energy. what i meant was "searching for alternative places to drill for oil" guess i should have specified it better. but anyway, you're wrong here. none of the alternative methods are as good as oil. sorry, but it's true. wind won't work. solar isn't strong enough. and nuclear.. how about we DON'T go there. that isn't a renewable source of energy anyway. nuclear would consist of using radioactive elements such as plutonium and uranium. last time i checked you can't grow more of that anywhere.
about the soy beans, hi! i'm from the midwest. that's where we grow all your fucking soy beans and corn to try to run machines. let me tell you, with that, you still have to have oil. not as much, but you still have to mix the corn/soy beans with refined oil. so yeah.. don't talk to me about renewable energy.

second of all: communism in theory is a totally ridiculous idea. you can quote Churchill all you want, but it doesn't change the fact communism has and will never work on a large scale. the whole idea of everyone getting the same amount of money for different jobs is just plain bullshit. if you work harder than some other guy you should get paid more. if your job requires more skill and schooling than some other guy you should get paid more. that is why communism is crap. it is NOT fair and definitly NOT effective. if that were true, don't you think more countries would be completely communist? yeah.. they would. but the truth is that it can't work. not even in theory.
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#29110 - 03/27/03 01:03 AM Re: War
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Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 185
Loc: Vancouver
OK, Honestly, I'm not really sure whether most of the people here are being sarcastic, or if you guys are that fucked up. Holy shit, if you are that fucked up and do believe what you are saying, I can see why the US is such a fucked up, violent culture. All you have been talking about is saving $5 here and there and being greedy fuckers. Ever think about the people being killed in Iraq and around the rest of the world because greedy people like you want to save a few dollars. Most people havn't even mentioned the fact that the war will kill thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. US greed baffles me. And fleshy, Communism means that everyone does the most and best work they can and receives what they need, not all equal. If I need this amount of money to live properly, I get it, if someone else needs a different amount, they get it and everyone works to their fullest capabilities. And it's true, it is the fairest form of government in my opinion.
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#29111 - 03/27/03 09:22 AM Re: War
fleshwound Offline
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Registered: 03/10/02
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Loc: CO
hahaha. yeah yeah. i still hate communism and will never believe it is 'fair'. but here's the deal.. you give me one instance where communism has worked on a large scale. i mean, really worked that way it was intended to, and i'll take back what i said about it. but see, i know you can't give me even 1 example. why? because it has never and will never work.
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