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#37500 - 01/31/03 09:49 AM Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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Registered: 10/08/02
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News Release explaining that Verizon will not turn Customer Personal Information over to the RIAA. I just wanted ppl to know about this and perhaps even contact Verizon via email and let them know you appreciate what they are doing.

Even if they realize giving up info to RIAA, will result in loss of many subscribers, they are still standing up to the RIAA. So kudos to Verizon.

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#37501 - 01/31/03 07:26 PM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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thats good to know. = )
BTW the FBI is investigating about the Hackers that are hacking the RIAA every month.

The story could be found here

http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0301/24.riaa.php
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#37502 - 01/31/03 08:47 PM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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Registered: 04/23/02
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the RIAA is never going to win. When are they going to realize this? Even if all the p2p progs get shut down...there's still ftp, irc, plenty of DC hubs etc etc.

if the RIAA goes after a single person I will enver buy a CD again because of that.

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#37503 - 01/31/03 09:59 PM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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I have read quite a bit on the latest developements of the P2P vs the RIAA mess. The biggest problem the RIAA faces now is even if they pull the plug on kazaa (the biggest P2P system to date) it will still not stop people from using kazaa. The Kazaa network has no central hub. There is no server that the files are routed through.

Instead you have annymous super nodes which any user can become. The users are the servers. So kill the company and the network remains web based. It would seem Kazaa is trying to go legit. The yellow icons you now see are pay per file downloads now. They signed on with some service that encrypts the files and charges you per download. It would also seem Kazaa DID try to license copyrighted songs all last year but the RIAA turned them down at every turn.

Verizon is big into it's customers privacy and security. I know, I work for them. The fact they are fighting back dose not surprise me. Though I am glad to see it.

The sad thing is the RIAA knows that this is the future. They have been dragging thier feet to develope thier own systems. I mean I have yet to see an album release in MP3(or something close) format. Why?

A CEO for billboard magazine who recently passed away was quoted as saying he could see the music industry falling apart in as soon as 10 years. Why? Because they has a HUGE problem and no friends. The online radio industry hates them. The air wave raidio hates them. Artists are forming organizations to fight them for rights to thier music after a legislation bill failed to take thier rights last year. And teens will continue to take what is free rather than pay.

They have no tools to fight this other than court. It is a P.R. nightmare for them. How do you attack potential customers and keep them? Go after key targets.

1.) the service providers ie Kazaa, Imesh, Morpheous etc etc etc

2.) The major uploaders. You share everything? They are looking for you.

See they are counting on greed to help them out. Most people do not want to share because it eats bandwidth. So a few supply for many. If they kill the few, there aren't so many. I don't doubt that is at least kinda true.

Many companies are dived over this. AOL Time Warner for example. AOL is pushing for broad bad to generate more revenue, yet broad band is use quite often to down load more. This hurts Time warner.

Sony and Sony Music often but heads as well over MP3 players vs C.D.'s. Since the only way to get many MP3's is either make them or download them. The list goes on. I can tell you this. The RIAA's big wigs are pushing much money into court and congress. The next year I think will have them targeting first the major players(service providers, uploaders). Then I see them going after the little guys.
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#37504 - 01/31/03 10:48 PM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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Have you read anything about the this: http://methlabs.org/pg/index.htm

Called the peer guardian(pg). I'm not sure if methlabs were the creators but it looks somewhat promosing for your everday music downloader.

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#37505 - 02/01/03 07:46 PM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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Registered: 10/08/02
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They have already gone after individuals.

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#37506 - 02/02/03 06:29 AM Re: Verizon Fights To Protect Consumer Privacy Rights
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Oh you're all going to get a kick out of this... I listen to Jammin FM http://www.jamminfm.com/ when I'm in the shower, they hand out pirated cd's lol... They even have a guy acting as a pirate ON the air when to call in and get your cd! lol... When you win, you simply stop by the station and they hand you a CDR with songs on it lol... They use KaZaA I believe, I told one of the old Disk Jockerys about it about a year or so ago, since then the "pirate" has made appearances lol...
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