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#4683 - 07/10/04 10:38 PM who will you vote for ?
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and by you, I mean everyone who is a US citizen. Will you vote for Bush or not ? Have you seen Farenheit 9/11 and if so what do you think about it ?

Just trying to find out what the majority here on UGN Security will do and if the movie had any influence on you in any way.

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#4684 - 07/11/04 02:58 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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I'm voting for myself. Cause all these people suck.

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#4685 - 07/11/04 04:32 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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I will be voting for Bush again for one reason; he's the lesser of two Evil's...
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#4686 - 07/11/04 05:51 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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"There! I have you! You're completely dished. Do you not know that in the service... one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?"

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#4687 - 07/11/04 10:34 PM Re: who will you vote for ?
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We are not only a two party system. There are plenty of other parties (just sucks that it is so tough for smaller parties aside from those two). Sure, they probably won't get elected, but then atleast you are:

1] Being active instead of just bitching
2] Not voting for someone simply b/c lesser of two evils
3] Helping your party attract attention to issues and making the larger parties deal with them

I am a member of the Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org . Here is a link to their standing on issues THE LINK



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#4688 - 07/12/04 05:44 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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As I stated in the WoMD thread:
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And hey, Bush is better than Kerry... Kerry "missed" the vote for supporting our troops who are out of the country, but he magically managed to be available to vote against the Lacy Peterson law (protecing pregnent women from abusive fucks who like to kill them).
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#4689 - 07/12/04 08:58 PM Re: who will you vote for ?
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The Lacy Peterson law is retarded. It should have been common sense. You kill 2 people, it's double homicide. Why'd we need a new law for it?
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#4690 - 07/12/04 10:27 PM Re: who will you vote for ?
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Because, in the USA if the child has yet-to-be-born in accordance with abortion laws, it's not alive; therefore if she's pregnent it's not a double homocide as they will argue it's not living. It makes perfect sense if you think of how it works.
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#4691 - 07/13/04 10:23 PM Re: who will you vote for ?
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Ah, I get it. I still think it should be common sense tho..
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#4692 - 07/14/04 05:07 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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In the USA we allow abortions on the grounds "if it's not breathing it's not alive"; this is so for every type of abortion (even partial birth; where the woman births the baby at full term and they kill it)...

Therefore, as we have it now, if the man kills the pregnent woman he is charged with 1 murder for just killing her, it is overlooked that she's pregnent because of how abortions are defined.

Therefore in order to go against how abortions work they have to make a new law to cover the pregnent woman case.

It may be common sense, but pro-choice people just see it as a restriction on their choice to kill a living thing :/...
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#4693 - 07/18/04 04:06 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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*grumble*
On topic: I'm 15, so obviously I can't vote. I'm sure I'll get some comments from IceMyst about how all teenagers are retarded, but I would vote for Badnarik. I don't support /all/ of the libertarian philosophies, but Kerry is socialist and Bush wastes money.


*edited by IceMyst (if your gonna bash me in then spell my name right)*
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#4694 - 07/18/04 05:19 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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The race is between Bush and Kerry; Bush is the less evil of the two. Any vote for anyone else is a vote against Bush to beat Kerry. Kerry must die...
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#4695 - 07/18/04 06:16 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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That's the problem with America. All the fucking adults are like "Well, they both suck, but I'm gonna vote for the less sucky one!" Can't you just vote for someone you ACTUALLY LIKE.. And then they say that the teenagers are idiots who don't know what they really want..

EDIT: Sorry about the rant, just kind of pissed off..
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#4696 - 07/18/04 06:26 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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If you vote for someone who will loose anyway, there is no point; your best bet is to vote for the one who will do the less damage; sadly it's the best for the country.
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#4697 - 07/18/04 07:21 AM Re: who will you vote for ?
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But if it does less damage, then it means the country will eventually be screwed up anyway, so you might as well try to do something right. There are enough people who don't like Bush or Kerry that if they would just vote for who they want we wouldn't have either of them..
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