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#516 - 03/22/03 04:15 AM Building Computer
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I've been asking around, and people have been very helpful. But I still haven't decided.

He is my situation: On Thursday Apr 10, I will have about 850 dollars to spend on a pc. However it is bought/built, it has to be put together/shipped in my room by Apr 16. (I'm going to a lan party, and I am sick of having to use my shitty pc.)

Anyone have any suggestions as to parts to buy, and where to buy them? It will basically be a gaming pc. As for CDROM, I am going to go with a DVDROM instead. And, a shitty video card for right now because I'll buy a better one later. A motherboard is what I need help with most on. If all else fails, I'm going to Azzo PC and try to bargain with them, or fuck it, I'll get a dell. Thanks.

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#517 - 03/22/03 07:37 AM Re: Building Computer
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there is only 1 stop to make when buying computer parts. That would be http://www.pricewatch.com. They categorize lots and lots of websites and the prices they have for various parts, and allow you to see who sells those parts for the least cash. It is at pricewatch that I found out that http://www.pcboost.com was selling 512MB PC2100 DDR memory card for a mere 45 bucks. No shipping and handling. That's the cheapest price for the most good ram you can find anywhere.

http://www.pricewatch.com is THE place to go. Everything else takes second place.
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#518 - 03/22/03 09:52 AM Re: Building Computer
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Just be SURE you check to make sure each and everything you buy is compatible with each other. YOu don't want to get all the parts and find out there is no way it will work.

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#519 - 03/22/03 01:46 PM Re: Building Computer
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$850 huh? This is just my opinion on what to get...

p4 2.4ghz cpu
512mb PC2700 ddram
ati Radeon 9500 vid card
Soyo sy-p4x400 dragon Mother board
antec server case

do you need a hard drive? moniter? cd-rom? Or can you just swap those old parts out of your current system? If you can do that then you could get that stuff i listed for about $650 easy!!! If you need a HD you can get a WD 80gb hard drive for about $90 so that would still be $740 and leave you with some extra cash to burn. Maybe on a sweet sound card or something (the mobo comes with onboard sound).
*shrug*

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#520 - 03/22/03 10:28 PM Re: Building Computer
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850 in'st alot to spend on a computer.... But if you got a bunch of parts you can swap it can be done, specially if you don't need the newest equipment on the net. I'd also look at http://www.mwave.com I got my 2 120 gig drives from there, no problems and was happy with them, their usually cheaper then alot of online retailers as well. so i'd give them a look. http://www.cdw.com has alot of high end network equipment which you may want to look at, mabye not buy, but give you an idea. Otherwise i know that dell has alot of specials on machines everyonce and a while, it won't be as customized as building your own machine, but it'll be easier so i'd go price out a system there, they should even be able to get it shiped and to you by said date

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#521 - 03/23/03 11:07 AM Re: Building Computer
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well CS for a gaming PC i suggest you check alienware.com they have some pretty good shit but damn the price link that SR gave you is fucking great, lots of info there.
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#522 - 03/23/03 01:09 PM Re: Building Computer
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haha, AlienWare systems are so nice. But they're fuckin expensive, you can't get anything for 850. The cheapest thing I saw was around 2200. Your best bet is to do a custom build from stuff found around pricewatch.com, and like jon said, check compatibility. I wouldn't waste your time looking elsewhere if you want the best system you can get for 850.

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#523 - 03/23/03 07:28 PM Re: Building Computer
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I went to the alienware website and customized a computer for fun. The total cost was over SEVEN THOUSAND dollars. Fucking insane, but it was a sweet-ass computer.
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#524 - 03/23/03 08:50 PM Re: Building Computer
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Ive heard good things about tiger direct, there kits are cheap and good qualtiy. Plus they dont put any OS on your machine so you dont have to pay for that.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?Id=31

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#525 - 03/24/03 02:24 AM Re: Building Computer
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I was at dell a while back dicking around, priced a computer out at $103,000 aprox. But oh, it was perdy ::drools:: it had something like 8 processors, and 32 gig of ram or something along those lines, needless to say, it was massivly over excessive for anything i would need now or most ever. I want one

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#526 - 03/24/03 03:28 AM Re: Building Computer
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yeah perg i know that, but maybe he could get a used alienware comp who knows, but damnit they're so cool. I guess pricewatch still remains your best choice...

lol Skull, ya really had some funn there hehee..
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#527 - 03/24/03 01:29 PM Re: Building Computer
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Yeah, Dell has been alternating deals online between a 700 dollar (600 after rebate) and an 850 dollar (700 after rebate) computer, with free shit that they take off slowly during the week. By the end of the week, all you get is free shipping. Then it changes to the other deal.

I don't have parts I can switch, except a keyboard and mouse I already have but there is a 20 dollar kb and m set that I like better. The reason is that I share this computer and I wanna buy my own.

You guys have been really helpful. My cousin bought everything in his system off of http://www.newegg.com and told me some great prices he found on there. On http://www.resellerreviews.com or something like that, newegg had all good reviews, but I didn't check out other sites' reviews.

The main problem I see with ordering online (which is the only way I would go with building my own computer) is shipping taking longer than I have, or screwing up with compatibility like jon said, or the shipping pushing it over my limit.

I could just stomach some and go to the lan with a shitty computer, knowing that in five or six more weeks i could buy an alienware computer, which would rule. As they say on http://www.lotl.cc/humor/lanpeople.php about guys with AW boxes, " He'll brag about the fact that he spent 6 or 7 grand on it, and others will criticize him for spending a ridiculous amount on a flashy designer computer that would cost half as much if you bought it anywhere else, when deep down inside, you know you want one too."

I'm not very good with hardware, which is why I asked for help. I am definately going to check out the sites you guys suggested.

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#528 - 03/24/03 01:58 PM Re: Building Computer
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that quote is almost true. I wouldn't want an alienware computer for that kind of price - even if I had the money. There's something about building your own computer, and knowing that at any time you may swap out a part or two to make it that much more kick ass. Many people who want a faster computer starts looking into buying a new computer. In my case, if I wanted faster than 1.8 gigahertz, all I have to do is buy that supa fast 3.0 gigahertz AMD I see at pricewatch for 552 bucks, and plug it in. Or for something more cost effective, I could buy a 2.5 for 173. Shoot, before installing my 1.5 gigs of ram and second harddrive, my computer only cost me 480 bucks. Course, that doesn't include monitor, speakers, and other peripherals.
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#529 - 03/24/03 04:19 PM Re: Building Computer
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/me thinks...
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#530 - 03/25/03 12:57 PM Re: Building Computer
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Ah, yes,alot of people will think that the alienware computers are cool, but not me. Their to unpersonal, you should go with something like i have, assuming you had the time. They are a little pricy, but their so cool looking. http://www.northwardgraphics.com or http://www.xoxide.com I gots me one from northward graphics, and i'm very happy with it.
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/skullbro/MVC-229S.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/skullbro/MVC-230S.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/skullbro/MVC-260F.JPG

So i say go with somethign a little more customizded rather then a alienware one. Then just buy the parts on your own, you'll be much happier with it in the long run because it will be your own creation.

By the way does anybody know where i can obtain an old fashing electric chair switch, you know the really big ones that look something like a big y
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#531 - 03/25/03 06:58 PM Re: Building Computer
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I personally don't care to have the case modded out, especially if I'm going to have to pay for it. To me, what matters is on the inside (heh, so I guess it's true...). Seriously though, people can scoff at a boring grey case, but if you save 100 bucks on it and were able to put it towards a better graphics card...

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#532 - 03/25/03 07:29 PM Re: Building Computer
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Buy OEM parts, same fuckin things only no pretty box...
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#533 - 03/25/03 07:58 PM Re: Building Computer
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What you need are some racing stripes on your case. Everybody knows that racing stripes make your computer look sharp, and chicks love stuff that looks sharp.

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#534 - 03/25/03 09:56 PM Re: Building Computer
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Quote:
and chicks love stuff that looks sharp.
yah, until you whip out your dick, isn't that right unreal?

I would personally recommend tiger direct or newegg.com.
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#535 - 03/26/03 12:20 AM Re: Building Computer
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we just built a fucking computer. weeehoooo. now we're building another one. weeeehoooo. total cost for 2 computers : $500. weeeehoooo. and the cases actually look pretty cool too.
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#536 - 03/26/03 10:51 PM Re: Building Computer
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Another thing you should put on your case is a spoiler and gold rims.

I decided that at first I am going to have a shitty sound card and video card because later i will buy a Radeon 9800 Pro and the Soundblaster Extigy with some bitchin' speakers.

I don't care what case I have, but eventually I would buy a better one. All that matters at first is that it has enough slots for drives, and isn't shaped like a schlong.

As for HD, a 30 gig would do me fine, but later on I know I would go with an 80 gig. I really don't need more than 40 though.

I'm going to Azzo Computers on friday to try and work out a deal, hopefully they will be able to do what I want. Or, I could order everything online and hope it ships in time. If I do that, I will be really pissed if I am missing one important part the day I need it, the lan party day.

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#537 - 03/27/03 08:14 PM Re: Building Computer
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Tiger direct has good prices BUT they overcharge on shipping... I reccommend http://www.outpost.com their owned by Fry's Electronic's and thats a local store here, fuckin rules, kinda like Incredible Universe if you've ever seen one (they went out when I was a wee lad)...
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#538 - 04/07/03 10:14 PM Re: Building Computer
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I ended up going with newegg.com. I ordered 538 dollars in stuff (including the 15 dollars on shipping) last thursday and I will order the 338 dollars (including shipping) of stuff left. I did this to save money on shipping, since I need everything by a certain date. With regular shipping and no rush processing, I get stuff estimated at thursday the next week. I only had enough money to get the first set of parts then, so I did that and reg. shipping. I will order the rest on rush processing and overnight shipping, giving me plenty of time to set it up and customize.

Stuff:
Chieftec Dragon Black server case with sidepanel
Athlon XP 2400
Abit nForce motherboard (with video, sound, and LAN)
512 pc2700 DDR from Crucial
40 gig 7200 rpm hd from western digital
16x dvdrom from liteon, black face
17 in black mitsubishi monitor
400 watt ps with lighted fan
Windows XP Home (because I am going legal)

I plan on getting the Radeon 9800 and Audigy 2 or Extigy later. Neo says 9800 is overkill. I say that's why I am getting it. Having a job when you're a kid rules.

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#539 - 04/08/03 02:51 AM Re: Building Computer
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I should mod out my case. I could invite all of my friends over and show them just how j33t I am because I added a cool window and a sweet red and black color scheme. Everyone will be impressed by the badass fin on the top that lowers wind resistance. My computer is 9 years old, but if I add a bunch of useless shit to the outside, no one could mistake me for anything but a connoisseur.

...Oh wait...

Some of us do useful things with our money. Morons.

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#540 - 04/08/03 08:34 PM Re: Building Computer
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Hey now. Come on, some people spend money on stupid things. I think if you do a job like graphic design, you could mod your case and it makes your environment more productive and creative. Or sometimes I get a crazy urge to take something apart and rebuild it. Granted, I don't even get the 2nd part done correctly, but I can see the fascination with modding. Also, the smartest thing to do if you have friends (unlike me). Mod your system, make it look l33to, then bring your friends over and when they see it, offer to do the same thing or whatever they want for cheap (really enough for you to pay for materials and still get some good money out of it...hehe).
I agree, its pretty ridiculous in some cases (no pun intended), but to each their own.

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#541 - 04/08/03 10:43 PM Re: Building Computer
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I like the mods like changing leds to cooler colors (I wanna change my green and orange ones to blue and bluish purple) and subtle stuff. I don't mind the window in there, but the sidepanel kicks ass. Yeah, goodbye ever having to unscrew the case, I can just slide a little handle thing and BANG! access. It got delivered today, and man I love it.

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#542 - 04/09/03 01:36 AM Re: Building Computer
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Most of the people who do mod have top of the line hardware inside their case even if not, why does it matter. Why do people mod their cars? Why do people renovate old houses, get cosmetic surgery? People some people have a sense of asthetics. They like things that are part of their life to be pleasing to look at. Who wants to stare at an institutional looking, bland, grey box all day? I know I wouldn't. Of course, some people don't have the money to make the choice. If I had the money I would mod-out my system like none other, not excessively though I would make sure to keep it tasteful.

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#543 - 04/11/03 04:41 PM Re: Building Computer
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People mod their cars even when they have shitty stuff inside. Note the 115hp Civic LEs with a wing. :x You need that down force when you're going 75mph in a front wheel drive car.

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