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#5528 - 03/17/04 03:28 AM
homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 12/02/02
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Loc: Long Beach, California
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I'm a freshman in college and I'm taking English 100 right now. I was expecting a rather pointless GE class that I had to take for the mere reason that it's a prerequiste for much of the higher level courses. However, I was not expecting what I got. My teacher's a homosexual, which is his business, and when he announced it to the class, I was rather suprised and wondered why that would matter to us at all. His sexual prefrence didn't matter to me in the slightest. In the weeks to come, I realized why he told us. The entire class is structred around homosexuality. The list of books we were able to choose from were almost all about homosexual teenagers or something along those lines. I say most becuase there were a couple about pedefiles in there as well. The movie we watched in class had blatant homosexuality laced throughout the entire movie. There was a very graphic scene where two men made out. Do you think it's right (or morol or ethical or whatever) for this teacher to use a GE class that has nothing to do with homosexuality in this way?
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#5530 - 03/17/04 06:56 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 185
Loc: Vancouver
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I think it's fine to put it in the class as long as it doesn't interfere with other things. Like if you are supposed to cover certain things so you have what you need to know for the other courses, and then on top of that he wants to add in content about homosexuality and talk about it and stuff, that's cool, why not? It's always good to learn about new things. But if it took away from other things you were supposed to be learning, then it's not very good in my opinion.
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#5531 - 03/17/04 07:04 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 7192
Loc: Portland, OR; USA
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Well, I find it discusting... Not that it's about homosexuality however...
See, how teachers do their courses is, they choose a topic and build their course on it, they can have it on any subject so long as it's focused. They can do it on anything from Poetry to great works of art, even homosexuality.
Now, their not allowed to have it on religion or straight sexuality, however they can have it on gay sexuality which i feel shouldn't be allowed. They should be banned from discussing any type of sexuality as it's basically the same as talking about religion or race, it's basically being racist and making certain people feel outcasted instead of wanted...
I mean if i was a gay guy and I was in an english class where they were talking about male strip clubs and bible's (what a combo) i'd feel extremely uncomfortable, as the straight guys are in the gay discussion class...
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#5532 - 03/17/04 11:10 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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UGN Poser
Registered: 11/17/03
Posts: 69
Loc: mn
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Lets leave homosexuality to a higher up class than a 100, or heck even stick to more traditional themes for GE's.
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#5534 - 03/19/04 05:49 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 03/05/02
Posts: 524
Loc: Cornfields everywhere...
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Structuring a basic English class around homosexuality is just as bad as structuring it around GOD, racism, or whatever the hell other objectionable thing you can think of. There should be some sort of basic curriculum for this class that needs to be followed (like reading Shakespeare or something). Talk to an administrator about it and see what you can do. It's just someone shoving their way of life in your face which is about the most annoying thing ever.
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#5535 - 03/19/04 12:19 PM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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nobody
Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 815
Loc: Ann Arbor
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the thing is, without having a class that hits those topics it would be very boring and dry. Even shakespear has love/sex in it. I think you should be allowed to read stories containing these topics, but you should also be allowed to express your honest opinions. If you feel homosexuality is the bane of society, you should be able to say it without repercussion, or at least write about it without repurcussion. If classes become to heavily baised pro or con towards a topic you should have the right to complain. After all the class is english not ethics.
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#5537 - 03/21/04 03:09 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 1449
Loc: Where ever Gizmo is
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But is it really fair to go into college saying yes you can talk about being gay but you cant talk about being strait or believing in god? honestly a in my eyes a teacher can talk about what ever he wants, if the students have issues with it they need to talk to the higher-ups at the college and state that it conflicts with moral or religion ethics or even protest it. but i think it's really fucked up how you can do one thing but not the other. it's like on tv, you can say bitch as many times as you want but you cant say shit even if you're refering to poop. you can even say fuck 90% of the time with out it being cencored...
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#5538 - 04/14/04 09:31 AM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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Registered: 10/18/03
Posts: 1
Loc: Washington, USA
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Something I don't get is how these people feel like they have to proclaim to the world that they're gay. I mean, I'm straight and I don't boycott companies who hire homos, go to stright marches, and feel the need to let every other person I come in contact with that I'm a heterosexual. Another thing, why do all of these people keep proclaiming all they want is equal rights? Because they really don't. This is why. As of right now, you, I, and every other person in the United States and the world has the option to marry a woman if you're a man, and women to marray a man. Now, what they're pushing for is to marry a member of their own sex and have exactly the same rights and everything. Now here's the thing, they have the EXACT rights to marry an opposite gender. I rest my case.
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#5539 - 04/14/04 12:40 PM
Re: homosexuality in the class room
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UGN Super Poster
Registered: 10/29/02
Posts: 616
Loc: The Beach
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well I for one don't give a shit either way. I do believe it to be bias to except to use a mainstream view of any kind to bind a simple class, like for explain structure it around ginsberg. He was gay, a poet, and thus english glass starts. But yea I think about it like most hold back saying anything because questiong gay rights today is like questioning christ's crucifixion 2000 years ago. If people want equal rights, in ANYTHING, they should give equal rights in sharing a pool of knowledge. Not getting personal, and physically intwined in something so simple as a english class. Of course the curriculum is the teacher's choice. So like Sam put it, go protest it for whatever reason if you don't like it, shutting up is wrong. Not voicing your beliefs, your orientation, and your rights make it easy for anyone to bash on them.
In sort this is all I feel I'll say on this so far.
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