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#5893 - 02/14/04 09:27 PM More Good News
Shinobi Offline
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Registered: 09/25/02
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Damn you Unreal!! Don't you ever Watch TV!? That was totally humerous...ok not really but anyway.

Now to the real news that I was going to post there before unreal closed the TOPIC!!

There is something that has been bothering me for a while now, and working in tech support always makes it seem that much worse. There is way too many stupid people alive on earth!! People who Can not speak (Not write or type) but speak, correct and complete sentances, no people who can't even speak REAL WORDS need to rid from this earth. I know my spelling and sentance structure is not the greatest but this is MOSTLY (not completly) contributed to me always being in a rush.

Back to topic at hand, stupid people. Without stupid people there probably wouldn't be people on the side of the road begging for money or food. There would not be war there would be no bigotry and virtully no hate. My suggestion is this. Natural Selection, I think we should do away with rehab programs, hospitols (for adults only, children are a differnt story which I will get to in a moment) and various other plans, programs and places that 'help' people down on their luck. This would SLOWLY but surly rid the world of most of the stupid and incompatant people.

"But what about people who die of the flu or other sicknesses" Natural selection is about survival of the fittest. It is great that we can save people from these once life threatening dieseases, but not everyone should be saved. Now you say "BIGOTRY HOW ABOUT YOU DECIDING WHO LIVES OR DIES!?" I never said I would say or anyone for that matter would say who lives or dies. Let Nature decide. If you are not strong enough genetically physically and mentally to live in this world then you shouldn't live in it, simple as that. Yes I know that this mean I, or many I love may die, but I am willing to accept that.

Now on to children. I do NOT think we should close off hospitols and aid to children. The reason for this is most children are in the situation that they are in because of their parents. Most stupid kids have stupid parents. Thats who they learn from its natural, BUT genetics are only 50% of who you become. So you can teach a kid with stupid parents to be a smart and good functioning person with the right enviroment. Sickness and kids is another thing. Kids cannot take care of themselves, its just a part of life. Most times kids get sick because they are not taken care of, or are not made to be clean and healthy (once again parents fault) So kids should recieve inital shots/medical attention as needed, BUT to a certian extent, kids are not excluded from this. Once kids hit sexual maturity they are excluded from this. If you can made others like you, you need to be able to take care of yourself. Therefore if they are indeed stupid or people who are not going to contribute to sociaty in a positive way. They will die and have no kids to pass this on.

I know some of you probably don't like this idea, think I am stupid, and heartless, but think about this You cannot honestly tell me that if half the people in the world were dead it would not be a better place for the people who are left alive.

That is it for my rant hope you read it all.
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#5894 - 02/15/04 03:24 PM Re: More Good News
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Registered: 02/07/04
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to be honest, i feel the same way.
By nature i wouldnt be here nor my mother nor my father nor brother and many other people on this earth.
Why about a very disabled child that cant eat or speak alone? And the doctors save it again and again. By nature it would of been dead. I dont find that right. Saving lives that arent really ones.
This earth is over pupulated.
But that is the medicines fault but we humans have been trying to save Lives from the beginning.
Why stop this proggress? Some people dream on being immortal. I dont. Death should be easy 'cause Life is so damn hard.
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#5895 - 02/16/04 08:24 PM Re: More Good News
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Well my stand point on mentally Challanged kids is kind of strange. I believe they should be able to live as long as they can't actully live. If that makes sense. If they are brain dead pratically then there is no way they can live. If they can't do ANYTHING for themselves then whatever happens to them happens to them. Thats kind of a touchy issue, but they should not be much of an exception to the rule. It is after all about survival of the fittest.
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#5896 - 02/17/04 02:28 PM Re: More Good News
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yeah but why let them live? It costs a hell of a lot of money which could be use better. I know it sounds rather cruel. But the money could be invested in better things, liek god knows what...better schooling? better raods? better kindergartens? loads of things.
Time is money. And they are going to change much on this earth and they dont really live very long and all those operations and tubes stuck in their stomachs and nose,...
We dont know even if they feel, let alone think ...
Es, it is a touchy subject but is it really worth helping very disabled children?!
Is it worth giving out that money?
I dont really know.
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#5897 - 02/20/04 12:31 PM Re: More Good News
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I thought about it again:

Parents who have born/gotten disabled children, think it is a a blessing that their not dead.
They try EVERYthing to make them live. These parents don't want to let go. They love those children; do we still have the right to not let them live?
It is not our job, our life and our time that we sacrifice, it's theirs, the parents. They want to sacrifice EVERYthing for those children.

DO we still have the right to not let them live?

I'll keep on thinking about it...
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#5898 - 02/20/04 10:54 PM Re: More Good News
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"yeah but why let them live? It costs a hell of a lot of money which could be use better. I know it sounds rather cruel. But the money could be invested in better things, liek god knows what...better schooling? better raods? better kindergartens? loads of things.
Time is money. And they are going to change much on this earth and they dont really live very long and all those operations and tubes stuck in their stomachs and nose,...
We dont know even if they feel, let alone think ...
Es, it is a touchy subject but is it really worth helping very disabled children?!
Is it worth giving out that money?
I dont really know."

I saw the second post, and read others but come on lmao. We can joke, and be all "stupid is as stupid does", but fuck ppl this isn't abortion which in itself they do do some after third tri-mester ones where they cut a babies head open(because it's soft at birth), then suck it's brains out through a tube(yea....stomach that). This is straight up murder. The fact is that all you need to think about if you have no morals, and no ethics. Is that one day they will come for your children, or your childrens children, and what if it's for things like bi-polar disorder, depression, and add? Is that worth saving the "Extra money spent on them" or worth the "wasted time we could use on the "smart children"?" cause really if so...then that's just fucked that anyone believes that. I remember a stargate episode moguai, sam, and I have seen, that is all about a civilization that uses their children as literal ai computing thinking machines, they take their data(memory), and turn them into zombies. Who just sit there, until we come to the planet, and give them toys, and such to try to learn, and start growing up from day one. This whole idea...has become warped in my opinion, so I leave it there. This is my piece, my peace I give.
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#5899 - 02/21/04 04:59 PM Re: More Good News
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ahm... ok
'Tis a bit right what you said.

But the children sometimes cant even think!
Nor feel.

Is it still right to let them live?
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#5900 - 02/23/04 01:22 PM Re: More Good News
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No one knows if they can feel or think or not, like plants, or pets, or old people with alzihmers, wanna start a mass genocide? :X
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#5901 - 02/23/04 01:59 PM Re: More Good News
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Hm
Too start a mass genocide, I need a lot of supporters, like Hitler did with Germans to get the Jews.
I need supporters that want and will do ANYTHING I say and believe in it.
But they must be a whole damn crowd of stupids to do that.
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#5902 - 02/23/04 03:15 PM Re: More Good News
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Loc: US
http://mbhs.bergtraum.k12.ny.us/cybereng/shorts/lotry.html

i know it isn't the same idea...but it always seems that things like this seem right...until they happen to you.//
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#5903 - 02/23/04 06:44 PM Re: More Good News
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Registered: 02/07/04
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I think one should believe in everything one does, you should be able to say at the end and beginning of the day that you did everything (or nearly everything) right, for your own conscience.
If, I get pregnated and the child is diganosed to be heavy disabled I would abort the "not yet child". Some people may think it murders; I dont think it is. By nature the child wouldnt have lasted very long.
And:
If, I would become a Zombie I would rathe prefer to be dead than alive!!!
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#5904 - 02/24/04 02:51 PM Re: More Good News
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Heh I don't know of any alive zombies:)

Liek I don't think everyone should go home thinking they did right on everything. Because everything is imperfect, no one, or no thing is without flaws, and perfection is a lie. Yet the media, and hollywood push this sub-perfect look/life, when you behind it though you see things worse then we all live with. I believe for one to be at peace with their pscyhi, energy, mind, spirit, beliefs, they must weigh their own morals/ethics when it's obvious. It isn't always is.

But for example I watch to much tv sometimes, then I just let go, and turn it off for a while. I usually leave it on in the background while doing shit, so on a normal day I watch about 2-5 hours of tv. Which is usually 2 shows, and a movie. A normal day is every day to couple of days though. The rest of the time it's background noise. So...I bleed in music..in place of it. It's not that I persey am lazy, or belief that I should ignore a slothful, or glutonous existance, because it's small but still evident. I keep myself in good shape, I eat ok, and I do good deeds. I'm a person that would save someone else's life, before my own. But when you fail to notice that all of these material things really begin to trap you in a sinful way you begin to see what sin is. This isn't about religion btw. I'm a fuckin spiritualist here heh ;D

But it is about lifestyles, say that one aborted child becomes 5, then 10, then 100? When do you take responsibility for becoming pregnant, and not receiving the child no matter how it is. O...it's such a burden to raise a "special" child, or O it's such a curse to be given a chance but the child be different. Ya know, this really does come down to things like where do you draw the line...you fuckin don't. The line isn't even a moving thing, the line is fluid, from one person to the next. But don't expect not be judged in someway after death in the actions you took in life in a whole. One after a another. Because like I've posted on here, everything someone does effects everything, you throw a pebble it ripples a pond. Existance is a butterfly effect itself. That guy you pushed out of the way to get that cab, that woman you passed by not holding the door, it's not about your morals, and ethics in the end.

But what actions that denote who you are, and what you've done. Because those actions can lead to the rise, and fall of civilization/races. Among any possibility. But not nearly so dramatic your killing something that doesn't have a choice. I'd say if the child had a choice, and was right of mind it would kill you before you killed it. By nature anything is possible. Nature is very very chaotic. Who lives, and who dies is sometimes not our choice. Say that you die in child birth. There ya go problem solved, you don't have to deal with a "special" child you can now go whereever. People don't even think about this shit when it comes to it though, because people are idiots. EVERY ACTION, has a equal, and opposite reaction. Your cause, will lead to an effect..no matter what. But this post Jalize just like the mass genocide one was not about or to you, when I speak it's to everyone. Not just UGN Security, or the people that read it, or the people online, it's the people of the world, it's everyone, and everything out there intelligent enough to understand for one instance of time what right, and wrong are.

But bla bla bla, baka baka, everything has been said before, people never listen, and they probably never will.
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#5905 - 02/24/04 05:34 PM Re: More Good News
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Registered: 02/07/04
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To die of childbirth is very unlikely now a days. There are more chances of dieng crossing over the street than dieing of childbirth.
Ok, in nature everything is possible.
And with the abortion:
It would affect my life:
Would I want that?
No, I wouldn't. I want a healthy child. Just Heathly and I mean who doesnt?
And with the abortion:
Say:
What was if I wasnt ready for a child AND the child would have been diabled? Should I have gotten it? Should I have look after a diabled child without even being ready for it?
Children are a funny gift. Some times they're wanted and sometimes they aren't or sometimes they're just a suprised.
And what you do with the gift, is only your choice!!!!
And even if the gift is broken, scratched or "kaput", it is your choice...
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