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#6008 - 04/23/03 03:15 PM Religion
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So back to the topic. How do you feel about praying in t his man made structure which wants so much money... It's for the good of the man we can't see... Or is it real? Anyway trying to get it started and no hacker ADD going on.
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#6009 - 04/24/03 11:58 AM Re: Religion
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Prayer in a man made structure does not bother me. The structure is just a place for people to gather. It could just as easily be done in someoneís backyard or living room.

At one time, when praying to God was shunned upon, people would meet in each otherís houses. The church is a physical building, but when groups of people who all share the same religion meet, another building is created. It is not physical, it spiritual in nature, it is what they share in there hearts as they speak to there god.

Money! They need a lot of it. If you have ever sat in a church annual meeting you know that it is costly. It is one of the few institutions that does not require an entrance fee or charge you for something. Consequently they are always asking for money.
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#6010 - 11/09/03 08:51 AM Re: Religion
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#6011 - 11/09/03 09:20 AM Re: Religion
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In China and Africa I've heard that theive pulled the skin off of people, gouged out their eyes, etc as their alive for believing in *god*... It's pretty sick...

I believe that anyone has the right to believe in what they want to, it their right to do as they fucking please...
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#6012 - 11/09/03 10:49 PM Re: Religion
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I'm with you to a point Gizmo. They have the right to do as they please as long as they do no harm to others in doing so.
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#6013 - 11/17/03 01:41 AM Re: Religion
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Disgruntled you are right on this topic, religion and spirituality are great on a personal level. But they should be kept private because they aren't needed in the public world. Also group religon can be damaging, just look at the mormons.

p.s. just kidding about mormons
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#6014 - 11/17/03 06:48 PM Re: Religion
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yeah, everyone can believe in whatever religion they so choose. that's fine with me. but i agree that it should be on a personal level. the thing i don't like is people trying to push their beliefs on me. that takes their religion from a personal experience to a public one. which i don't think is right. if you really had that much faith in your god and religion, you wouldn't feel the need to push it on everyone. you wouldn't feel threatened by those who do not believe. sorry, but i think most of the people that really push their religions on you and try to convert you are afraid of you. they are afraid to have someone else disagree. they must think that it takes away some credibility to their religion if everyone else hasn't bought into it.


sorry.. just thinking of my God freak of a sister that is always trying to convert me.

at any rate.. religion is a such a personal issue. i don't see how people could publicly share it so easily.
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#6015 - 11/18/03 05:03 AM Re: Religion
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I agree with fleshwound, you are totally right on this topic.
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#6016 - 11/18/03 05:23 AM Re: Religion
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Once again we are in agreement Fleshwound.
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#6017 - 11/21/03 06:03 AM Re: Religion
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I wonder how many people would stop celebrating birthdays if they found out where the Cake & Candles part comes from. Surprise it's a Pagan tradition. In ancient Greece ppl would make a cake and, then they placed candles on it. This was then taken into the sacred temple of one of the goddesses. While under the gaze of their goddess, they would attempt to blow out all of the candles in a single breath. If they were successful, they would have a bountiful year ahead.

shocking isn't it.
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#6018 - 11/22/03 12:28 AM Re: Religion
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I think religion should be kept on a personal level as well but I don't think it is wrong to share your beliefs with others if it is not offending to them. But I do not think it is right to force your beliefs on to others

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#6019 - 11/22/03 11:26 PM Re: Religion
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I also agree with you blackhole, I see nothing wrong with sharing your beliefs with others, but if I were to use physical or legal force to make others listen; then I am a narrow minded religionist. As far as brainwashing goes, it's not always an up in your face kind of thing. Some brainwashing techniques are very subtle. Your not suppost to know it's even happened to you.
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#6020 - 12/09/03 11:59 PM Re: Religion
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I think everyone here is right in their own experience. I agree that force is wrong in any sense of the word because it takes away from what is most valuable, our free will.

Perhaps we envy those who have "found the truth" and care to share it with others. Isn't that what we all search for when we lay our heads down at night?

PS. fearENKI (page up) it looks as though the annunaki of Nibiru forgot to stop by planet earth as predicted back in May and June of 03'. [alien]

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#6021 - 12/10/03 01:56 AM Re: Religion
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The problem with finding the "Truth" as you put it Susejsevil613, is that we have far to many people in this world; who believe that their version of the truth is the one and only truth. In their small narrowminded view of how things are supposed to be there is no room for anyone elses version of the truth. These same people are so fanatical about their "Truth", that they will go to great lengths to wipe out any doctrines that conflict with there own. I even heard that some of the churches in america are threatening to punish senators who are of their faith with excommunication, if they sign any bills into law that go against church doctrines. So much for their free will huh?

P.S. Welcome to the board.
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#6022 - 12/10/03 03:15 AM Re: Religion
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Thanks Disgruntled, glad to be on board.

History has and will always have a problem with "Truth" as I put it. As for the church, am I sorry.
I guess the point I want to make is - think outside religion, narrow minded, etc... Maybe some of us are a little frustrated that we aren't so zealous as some people are about what they truly believe in. I believe it is in our nature to discover, to believe, to be radical, to connect. ?

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