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#7255 - 11/30/02 05:18 PM Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Kickfoot
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Member # 616 posted November 27, 2002 01:18 PM
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I'm an newbie....I don't want to crack the homepage...I have readed about 60 Tuturials and 2 bocks, about hacking homepages....But never got the answers i m serching for....Did you newer asked someone about anything......Everyone was an newbie....even the ELITE........If u dont know the answer then don't say anything
I got this in my Private messages inbox. It pertains to this

http://www.undergroundnews.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000183

Alrighty, let me start with I am sorry. I am hardly ever mean to you newbies. it is REALY funny you sent this to me Kickfoot. I have helped more newbies than you can count, and I have no doubt you can count high. I created a whole site to help newbies.

That said......

You lame ass anti-1337 idiot! What you want to know how to do is wrong and illeagle. All it proves is you are an ass hole if you ever did do it. You will end up hacking someones page that is themselves learning. Why should I teach you shit. What if the page you mess up is someone I taught how to make a web page.

You read a lot of books... Good cause that is how you will find out what you want to know. Like most of the other decent members here. We read. Send me a P/M crying like a school girl again. I'm sure the guys around here can use another laugh.

here is a site you will look cool on.

http://www.teen-hangout.com/index.html#
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#7256 - 11/30/02 09:33 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Learner's the biggest asshole I know. Helps newbs my ass...

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#7257 - 11/30/02 10:06 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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lol...I love it.

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#7258 - 11/30/02 10:18 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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nice
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#7259 - 11/30/02 10:39 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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uhhh May i ask were u get these Books on Hacking Web Pages ??? Cuase Shit like that isnt in Libraries becuase they dont have books that reflect on activities that are indeed Illegel
So i doubt you read ALOT of books

Second, By the Post you make I WANT TO HACK A HOMEPAGE, This does not sound like someone that read many books and read many tutorials. And if those "books" and tutorials didnt help then dont bother, Cause ur prb not gonna get it

I am a newb My self, I am not flaming that guy byt for someone that has read alot, He sounds worse then a newb
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#7260 - 12/01/02 04:18 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Heeeey.....I never asked someone to tech me hacking someones hompage i asked if it is posible to hack an privat server......
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#7261 - 12/01/02 04:27 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Those books are available in libarys... You just need to know what to ask for . Most book stores would have them though.
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#7262 - 12/01/02 08:37 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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expect 2 get flamed kickfoot.i kno.jst look shit up urself an if u must post say hypothetical stuff
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#7263 - 12/01/02 01:06 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Gizmo i dont know about my library, I dont think they cary anything like that, Closest are about Mitnick thats about it lol

And in Book Stores, Ya u can buy them but why would you when u can get some tutorials on the net or e-books
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#7264 - 12/01/02 01:09 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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You're not gonna find anything like Hacking Exposed or Maximum Security, but they have plenty of books on networking, TCP/IP, and unix.

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#7265 - 12/01/02 01:15 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Ya agreed on that, But the guy prb went to the help desk and prb asked

Hello, you have any Books and Hacking Webpages ??

I can see the employees face = (

Btw pergesu i dont think it would go to his mind to look at those books because he made a thread recently asking what Unix was
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#7266 - 12/01/02 02:11 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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I know, I'm just saying that when Gizmo says you gotta know what to ask for, that's what he means. Or at least I think so

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#7267 - 12/01/02 05:04 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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HAIL LEARNER! HAIL LEARNER!

I woreship you now.
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#7268 - 12/01/02 05:41 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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"Hello, do you have any material on computer and data security, primarily on the usage of UNIX or Windows systems?" Mine has some, they even have penthouse.
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#7269 - 12/01/02 06:26 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kickfoot:
Heeeey.....I never asked someone to tech me hacking someones hompage i asked if it is posible to hack an privat server......
Just shut the fuck up man. This is exactly what you asked.

Quote:
How do i hack an homepage which is placed on an private server??......Its pretty easy to hack an homepage on geocitys.....but i don't know how to do on an private server???
see for yourself

http://www.undergroundnews.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000183

First off you are asking all wrong.

How do I hack "an"(you mean "a")homepage which is placed on a private server.

Lets pick this apart shall we.

Homepage should be webpage
placed should be stored
and by hack you mean gain write privillages too.

Look it is not like me to pick on a new guy like this so I am going to help you out a bit. First off black hat hacking is not something I will help you with. There is such a thing as hacking to learn and not to make a statement or be cool.

Do it to learn and I will help. Show off and piss off. Black hat is purely bad. Like destroying a site, or viruses that sort of garbage.

Wana learn some stuff I can help some.

First off dealing with the above.

Telnet,
exploits,
HTML,
Apache,
Unix,
IIS,
Windows,
FTP,
Brute Force,
trojan, virus

Read up and understand all of the above like you understand your ABC's. Then you will be ready to hack a server. Not being mean, but you are not there, and will not be there for at least a year or 2 judging the way you worded your question.

If you want to learn, and you would like respect around here start learning stuff you can sort of talk about now.

Start with Linux or telnet.

Linux Links:

http://www.linux.org/lessons/
http://linuxnewbie.org/
http://tldp.org/
http://linux.box.sk/

Good newbie Linux distro's
Mandrake Download page
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3
Red Hat 8.0 ISO's
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/iso/i386/

Now you are saying, WTF would I want to learn Linux. I want to hack. WELLLLLLL.... Linux is basicaly Unix, Unix is the operationg system of about 80% of the internet. That number counts servers, Routers, etc etc etc. Chances are the server you are intrested in is running some flavor of Unix. Linux happenes to be very cheap or free. Unix is highly expensive. So learn Linux and you pretty much learn Unix.

I belive Linux and the BSD's are based off system IV where as true UNIX is system V. Might want to read up on Unix history also. There you will see a tie between hackers and phreakers and Ma Bell.

Telnet

You HAVE to learn telnet if you ever want to gain remote access to any box.

about the protocol
http://protocols.com/pbook/tcpip7.htm#TELNET

some commands you will need to know
http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/unixhelp/tables/telnet_commands.html
http://www.jbmelectronics.com/telnet.htm
http://simplythebest.net/info/telnet.html
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url= /technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/proddocs/telnet_commands.asp
http://www.pccontrolanywhere.com/help/telnet2.htm

Now telnet is big and vast, the commands will differ depending on

1.) What type of OS you are connected to
2.) What server is on that OS
3.) What application on that server you are messing with.

This is a great telnet starter lesson
http://www.lameindustries.org/tutorials/exploringtelnet/index.shtml

Read all that and get back to me. Either read it all or you get no help from me.
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#7270 - 12/01/02 06:46 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Originally posted by pergesu:
Learner's the biggest asshole I know. Helps newbs my ass...
ha ha ha ha Yea you know me, a big jerk.

Now some of you will say why did you help him. If you read I didn't help him hack the server at all. Instead I am putting out good info he needs to be a good member around here. If he dose read up on every thing I posted he will be above many. Not all mind you, but many. He will also know where to go to get most of the info he needs.

Kickfoot, I probably gave you more info in the post above than anyone else has given you yet. I do like to help newbies. However I can't stand when they come in and basicaly say

"Hey will one of you put yourself in harms way to help me do something childish."

If you want to learn A LOT you are on the right site. But people will let you know when something if not right. Keep a thick skin and be willing to work and you will learn a shit load.

BTW 2 searches you MUST book mark

http://www.google.com
http://promodtecnologies.com/rrfn/RRFN.php

The last on I run. It was set up for newbies.

RRFN = Required reading for newbies. If gizzy is ever intrested I will give him a copy of the database to have a similar search up here.
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#7271 - 12/01/02 07:01 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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if u wanna practice Unix Skills in Telnet go to
http://www.hackerslab.org/

Its 17 Challenges, You have to use Unix knowlenge to find passes to the next level

Good way to learn Unix and understand it
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#7272 - 12/01/02 07:31 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Whoa!! I love that kinda stuff. Thanks for the link man. Is this something that is cool if it is public. I would love to add it to my search.
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#7273 - 12/01/02 08:47 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1c3:
uhhh May i ask were u get these Books on Hacking Web Pages ??? Cuase Shit like that isnt in Libraries becuase they dont have books that reflect on activities that are indeed Illegel
"Hacking Web Programs Exposed" is a book I saw in Walden Books at the mall last week. Among other titles were "A Complete H@cker's Handbook: 1st and 2nd Edition" (Aimed towards newbs) and "Web Hacking." They probably suck some ass though. Just thought I'd share.
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#7274 - 12/01/02 10:19 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Le4rner is the largest cock I know, well becides myself... I remember coming back here, having everyone start shit, pulling and dropping learners dox, laughing at everything, then fuckin him over, it was funny as hell lol...

Odd thing is that we're good friends now I guess lol...
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#7275 - 12/02/02 08:18 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Hey.....OK...I just asked if anyone knows if it is possibel to hack a homepage placed on an privat
server......And now i get flamed.....I newwwer talked about to destroy the page...
I would get realyyyy happy if someone just could give me an answer....Yes/NO....And thanx Le4rner for trying to help me but it was not exactly the Linux i asked about

PS: Pleas stop flaming me....just giv me the answer i'm serching for thanx :DS
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#7276 - 12/02/02 08:34 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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It is not, and prolly never will be, possible for YOU to hack a homepage placed on a private server. For the portion of the human population who is willing to read and learn a thing or two it is possible, but you should just give up now and go take up stamp collecting or get a pet rock. I'm thinking those are more your speed.

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#7277 - 12/02/02 08:56 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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bah, learner, this is why we invented rrfn :-)

honestly, that is rediculous...
(i desperately hope nobody has any of my old posts saved....)
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#7278 - 12/02/02 04:31 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kickfoot:
Hey.....OK...I just asked if anyone knows if it is possibel to hack a homepage placed on an privat
server......And now i get flamed.....I newwwer talked about to destroy the page...
I would get realyyyy happy if someone just could give me an answer....Yes/NO....And thanx Le4rner for trying to help me but it was not exactly the Linux i asked about

PS: Pleas stop flaming me....just giv me the answer i'm serching for thanx :DS
[shit]

I did answer your question. God damn it. Look kid all the stuff I listed is what you would need to know inorder to hack into a private server.. Aren't all/most servers private. I mean I never heard of a public server where anyone can go in and change web pages. ha ha ha

I listed some thing you need to know. There is much more. What you know now will only hack you into a cell with bubba for about ten years.

Any time you connect to someone's server without permission it is illeagle. You don't even realise I answered your question. It is ike this.

If hacking into a server were compared to breaking into a musem to steal a painting, You would not be wearing black..

Instead you would be in Neon Orange, with pots and pans slamming together and a bull horn on announcing where you have been.

If you broke into a server now that is what it would be like.

All the info above MIGHT help you not look like amature night on the net. There are many ways to hack, Many paths to take. One will not allways work. You MUST read a shit load to ever make any progress.

If you still don't get it...

You are an oxygen thief. Just DIE!
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#7279 - 12/03/02 07:04 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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aha??.....so waths Geocitis??
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#7280 - 12/03/02 04:42 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Hey Le4rner , np with the link man = )
Hope u get futher then i did, I am new in Unix so lol you prb will go further
good luck dud
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#7281 - 12/11/02 09:56 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Learner I can't believe you waste your fucking time on these people. There has to be about 100 posts were people ask those questions just give them a link to one of them.
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#7282 - 12/12/02 11:55 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Quote:

Originally posted by Kickfoot
aha??.....so waths Geocitis??
Not me mean or anything but what are u asking ??

Whats Geocities ?? i dont know what "Waths" means

and I hope its not asking what i am think ur asking
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#7283 - 12/12/02 05:29 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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so waths Geocitis??

Geocities is still a private server. It isn't like they give you telnet access, or even the ability to write scripts there, Do you have SMTP, or POP3 access? You sure don't. They do.

When you get an account on Geo cities or most other free hosters you are simpley playing on a script. You write you HTML, it looks through it to make sure you are a good little boy, then if all passes.... It saves it.

I seriously doubt each site even has their own directory. Instead your code is probably stored in a database right next to some chick doing a site on backstreet boys. It is all fake. Inpressive on a coding scale, but fake all the same.

You are never actualy on thier server. You are just playing with the pages ther server is sending you. If you truely had server access, the adds on a plain HTML page could be taken out without some tricky coding.
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#7284 - 12/12/02 06:05 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Actuallt Le4rner helps newbies a lot,he helped me before, when I needed it...

1c3 your in Canada right? Why don't you go to Indigo's or Chapter's, like half the store is about computer's and shit...

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#7285 - 12/12/02 07:50 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Actualy I did help this guy. It is rare I react this way, but just can't stand questions such as this one. But I hope I put him on the right path and he will be more cautious in the future about posting requests on illeagle topics in the future.
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#7286 - 12/12/02 08:43 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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Yeah, Gizmo isn't against the rules to post questions about how to hack stuff. Isn't it a violation???

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#7287 - 12/17/02 12:56 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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lmao. Learner is such an ass. How dare he help lusers, what a bastard! Lets crucify him! GWAR!
Oh btw, what form of english is this guy speaking? I think its called "backwards lame english" but im not sure. Any guesses?

lar lar im out

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#7288 - 12/17/02 07:10 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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dunno...He seems to be covering his words though. He says in the first post:

How do i hack an homepage which is placed on an private server??......Its pretty easy to hack an homepage on geocitys.....but i don't know how to do on an private server???

Then IMs Le4rner and says he didn't want to know how to hack. If you look above it clearly states that he wanted to know how to hack a private server.

So, yeah, I think he is lying to cover' [smoking]

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#7289 - 12/17/02 08:57 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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ok.. umm... i just want the newb to learn how to fucking spell and how to correctly use 'an' and 'a'. i can't even read any of the things he's written cuz i start going insane. ok.. maybe i'm just being a bitch.. heheehe oh well. the lack of spelling and incorrect usage of 'an' is driving me nuts!
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#7290 - 12/25/02 08:01 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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OK....Nu har vi alla haft kul med att mobba den lille Kickfoot.....tuffa vi r......Ni r s jvla krda att ni anvnder Unix system fr att ta er in p en dator kul...lek.....anvnd en trojan.....ltt och enkelt..... emn nej ni skall ju alla envisas om att vara tuffa och ta den jobbiga vgen LOL LOSERS........ men till dig "dashocker" sger jag bara att om du trackar min engelska s var duktig gosse och verstt den hr texten.....pucko........jupp jupp det var vll allt tror jag Och till dig Alien-Terror: Inget illa menat detta r inte riktat till dig " vi svennar holer ihop" LOL .....jupp om dom lama idioterna udrar vad det str hr s fr du om du orkar verstta denna text.....men det tror jag knapast du gr.....s haa det bra och lycka till...med allt du gr.....jag lmnar nog forumet nu....dett var ett fr Intolerant stlle LOL.....JUPP....hej d
//Kickfoot

Try to read this dashocker ore are you speaking "backwards lame Swedish" ?? LOL
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#7291 - 12/25/02 11:59 AM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
Ice Offline
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::scratches head:: What the hell is that all about ???

Quote:
Originally posted by BlackSpider
Actuallt Le4rner helps newbies a lot,he helped me before, when I needed it...
Learner is a cool guy = ) He helps me when i need help and answers my questiosn = ) Hes a cool guy

Quote:
Originally posted by BlackSpider
1c3 your in Canada right? Why don't you go to Indigo's or Chapter's, like half the store is about computer's and shit...
lol Ya i been in chapters they do have a SHIT laod of computer books, But i meant in the Library. Our biggest library only has books on Computer Programing thats about it = )
Plus those bugs in chapters are a shitload of money 80-100 dollors = ). Plus i really dont think they have a book about Hacking Webpages. Mabye Security on Webpages or something like that
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#7292 - 12/25/02 12:45 PM Re: Kickfoot pleads with me that I should have not flamed him.
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This topic is pretty much dead. You know the drill: if you have a good reason for keeping this open, contact me on IRC.

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