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#8800 - 12/16/03 06:05 AM CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
NeoMatrixReloded Offline
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Registered: 12/09/03
Posts: 6
Loc: Omaha
OK YOU ALL KNOW WHAT, I NEED HELP OK IM A NEWBIE AND FOR SOME REASON I PUT UP POSTS TO GET SOME GOD DAMN HELP AND I GET NASTY REPLIES, I THINK ITS AMMUSING HOW YOU GO UP TO PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP AND WANT TO LEARN, AND SPIT OUR QUESTIONS BACK AT US SO WHY DONT YOU ALL THINK OUT SIDE THE BOX AND HELP SOMEONE THAT HAS THE BRAIN POWER TO DO EXCEPTIONALLY WELL IN THE WORLD OF COMPUTERS, AND YOU ALL LAUGH AT ME FOR WANTING MORE KNOWLEDGE AND WANTING TO LEARN, IF YOU WANT TO HELP YOU HELP IF YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE GO PLAY WITH YOUR SELF AND CRITICIZE THE WAY YOUR PLAYING WITH YOUR SELF THIS..!!!!!!!
MESSAGE IS FOR THE ONES WHO LIKE TO CRITISIZE NEWBIES, NOT FOR THE ONES WHO HELP OUT INFO SEEKERS.
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#8801 - 12/16/03 06:29 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Gremelin Offline

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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 7192
Loc: Portland, OR; USA
Well, allow me to criticize...

1. You make multiple posts on the same subject, so we flame you.
2. You type in all caps, so we flame you.
3. You don't ask a real question and you're extremely vague, so we flame you.
4. You sit and bitch, so once again we flaim you.
5. You don't show us respect, so we flame you.
6. You pollute our board with BS posts, and curse in a place that is supposed to be a family page, so we flame you.
7. Sence a pattern?

Now, shut the fuck up and go cry to your mother, if you're going to be a little bitch it's how we're going to treat you.
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#8802 - 12/16/03 06:30 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
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Registered: 03/09/02
Posts: 1041
Loc: Canada eh
You spam the board again and your account will be banned.

I don't know who you think you are, but you had better listen up son.

You know what the problem with retards like you is? You don't have the mental capacity to understand when someone is trying to help you. Just because you don't like the help is no reason to act like a child. I told you the honest truth. Now grow up and listen for once in your life. Obviously you don't know shit about shit, so try to comprehend something for once. I have no obligation to help you out at all, and I take some time to try and point you in the right direction and this is how you say thanks? Now that's gratitude for ya.

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#8803 - 12/16/03 06:41 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Ice Offline
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Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 1146
Loc: Canada
people critisize you because your posts are idiotic.
I am sorry if i am rude, but its the truth.

Quote:

Obviously you don't know shit about shit, so try to comprehend something for once.
Agreed on that.

and btw

HACkING CANT BE TOUGHT. Learn programing, learn to explore, etc...
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#8804 - 12/17/03 11:12 PM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Vechen Offline
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Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 36
I'm going to like this board, alot. I used to flame everywhere else I went and nobody liked because they are all pussies.
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#8805 - 12/17/03 11:15 PM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Infinite Offline



Registered: 03/09/02
Posts: 1041
Loc: Canada eh
Ahhh, now see useless flaming is exactly that, useless. If you just flame for the sake of flaming then you won't like it here either.

However, a constructive flame is a little different. If someone asks a dumb question then by all means tease them a bit, but have the decency to answer their question to the best of your abilities. If you are unable to answer their question the STFU.

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#8806 - 12/18/03 12:06 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
sinetific Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 815
Loc: Ann Arbor
NeoMatrixReloaded or Micro or whatever you want to call yourself:

READ THIS!

This is not a flame first of all. This is the truth of how it is. I completely understand where you're coming from. You need to understand where we are coming from. We provide a FREE service here to try and help ourselves and people like ourselves by answering and discussing technical questions related to computers and technology. Sometimes we have bad day. There is no sign here that says "service with a smile" this is not McDonalds. You will not "get it you way" this is not burger king. If you even get a chance to stay here it will be our way. Up until now, I have tried to stay out of this stupid problem you have with people on this board. If you dont like the answer someone gives you dont start another post to tell everyone how mean that person is to you. That makes you look like a whining pussy and no one is going to want to help a whinning pussy or take them seriously. You need to understand that you are clueless. We dont really mind it, we are used to it. But also understand there is at least a new clueless person to come to this board at post questions that take less than a minute's search on google to find an answer to. It gets annoying and repetitive. Don't think that we are going to drop everything and spoonfeed you information because you up and decided you are going to be a hacker. We(the administrators) are here because we have the ability to find answers for ourselves. Honestly I don't know the answers to half the questions I respond to, but I find them with a quick search on google.
1 Only ask technical questions.
2 If someones answer critisizes you for asking a certain question, Ignore it, only pay attention to the technical part of the answer.
3 Do not reply in any manner such to critisise the person that answered you or critisise their answer. Your too damn lazy to look it up yourself so you have to deal with the answer they give you. Tough shit. Get used to it lazy.

P.S.
A NOTE TO ALL NEW PEOPLE:
"How do I hack?" or "How do I become a hacker?" are not a technical questions. They are philosiphical question that really dont have defined answers. It is the equivalent of asking "what is the meaning of life?" or "what is the secret to happiness?". It really is a personal question that can only be defined by each individual. When you actually get to a point in your life when you become a hacker you will understand what I mean. Im sure there are other people that understand what I mean.

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#8807 - 12/18/03 12:55 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
jonconley Offline
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Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 955
Loc: Merrill, IA, USA
NeoMatrixReloaded aka "SOMEONE THAT HAS THE BRAIN POWER TO DO EXCEPTIONALLY WELL IN THE WORLD OF COMPUTERS":

There seems to be an inconsistency in your spelling

criticize doesn't restrained amusing criticizer, those are the correct spellings

aside from that, I thought you had a chance, but you obviously have the mental aptitude and maturity of a preteen.

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#8808 - 12/18/03 02:17 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Vechen Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 36
Nicely put, sinetific. If you were to ask "how do I hack" it wouldn't be much good because there's no absolute explanation for hacking. But if you were to ask say, "how do I learn to access a remote system" well it would be vague but it would give more insight then asking how to plain-old hack.
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#8809 - 12/18/03 03:28 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Shinobi Offline
UGN Member

Registered: 09/25/02
Posts: 390
Loc: Asheville, NC
I understand both sides of the argument. No one likes to be criticized for what they ask because there is always the philosophy of 'The only stupid question is the one that goes unanswered'.

HOWEVER! The way to get around this is NOT to make another post whining about how you were treated. Looking back at your posts I seen very little criticism and a lot of helpful answers. I along with everyone else here get frustrated when people post a question that can be answered IN THE EXACT WORDING by simply going to google.com.

It also angers me when people see a program on TV or watch a movie. Then decide overnight they are going to become a hacker. I have watched the people signing on this forum, and the numbers jump whenever a show or movie about 'hackers' comes on basic cable. Most of which make 1 stupid post and are never heard from again, others make no post at all. All because they want to be 'cool' and break into remote systems and wreak havoc. For this our forum and this site which most here have come to love, gets clogged with nothing but crap. We used to have a name for that. It was called being LAME! Hacking is not breaking into computer systems or cracking serial numbers on program just because you want to show how cool you are with your pirated software. It is a state of mind. A hacker person who loves computers and is interested in Every aspect of them. It is the people who want to do things like this that give hackers a bad name. So when people make our lifestyle seem wrong or malicious in anyway.... Don't you think we have the right to criticize?

This is where I will end my rant. I'm sorry it is so long.
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#8810 - 12/19/03 12:37 AM Re: CRITISIZERS SUCK!!!!!!
Vechen Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 36
OH my god Shinobi. You gotta write more that was the exact fucking thing that has always gotten to me. You don't hack to be cool, you don't hack to make friends. You "hack" to discover new things and enlighten yourself. You "hack" to gain information and informaiton that helps you overcome challenges. You don't watch Hackers or War Games (good movies, though) and say "Man, I think I want to learn how to hack a Gibson, did you see how that guy got caught by the Feds? kewl".

Wait, I just put your rant into my own words. Anyways, this should definately give more insight for you script kiddies that just use various "proggies" and don't even bother to learn anything.
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