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#4742 - 09/01/05 10:25 AM "America's Tsunami" my ass  
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Are you kidding me? While the destruction is pretty awesome, how the hell can you even begin to compare 250000 dead to (currently) 120? I know it may be a little much to ask of the media, but can you please get a grip on reality?

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Why would they want to do that. Stretching the truth is how they get higher ratings and more sponsors. WHo cares if it isnt close to the truth as long as it has some truth in it.

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#4744 - 09/01/05 12:25 PM Re: "America's Tsunami" my ass  
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...this is why my tv is always tuned to Dora the Explorer, I didn't even know there was a hurricane...I was too busy singing "we did it! we did it! we did it, hooray!"


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#4745 - 09/01/05 02:18 PM Re: "America's Tsunami" my ass  
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yeah... new orleans is gone...


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Yeh, the dome is now a huge pool...


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The death toll is expected to be in the thousands. Pluss if people keep doing shit like sniping people in hospitals it will get worse. You can expect to feel a finicial burden from this shortly. It is bad, I do not know if it is as bad as the Tsunami but it is more than a sensationalised story. It is truely anarcky down there. Gangs are forming and holding up people. Many who managed to survive held up in thier atic are having gangs roll up in boats, rob and rape. It will be years before the city recovers. You can bet the death toll is higher than 120. How high we many never know as there are bodies floating in the water.

It has been 3 days I think now. Soon that water will start to breed desease. Mosquitos will spread this fast. Look to hear about malaria if they do not get everyone out ASAP.


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Don't get me wrong, this is a very bad event. And when I posted this the death toll was at 120, hence the (currently).

As for the sniping, lawlessness, gangs, etc... That doesn't count. Someplace in Asia is devastated and they band to gether to survive. Someplace in US devastated, people de-evolve and sink further into the Choas. This is called Darwinism people. I say rope off the city and let what will be be. Can you say "John Carpenter's Escape from New Orleans" ?

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How high we many never know as there are bodies floating in the water.
It was a city UNDER the sea level... All of their cemetaries are crypts, you can't burry someone there... Theres going to be a lot more bodies than those who died in this disaster...


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There's already reports of caskets floating around...


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Yes there are reports of caskets floating, but it is common place to see bodies. The coast guard says as they fly to roof tops to save survivors there are more bodies than can be counted. Due to lack of water, food, medical attention people are dying in the areas where they are moved to.

I saw a story where a teen boy "stole" a school bus and was driving any one who wanted to get on out of the area. Of course cops arrested him. Lets see, food, water suvival. Not to mention no schools left to drive the fucker too.

There will be many survivors dieing if relief and or evacuation doesn't move forward soon.


I saw President Bush got a card from China today... They feel real bad for what happened. Now every major desastor we send mucho money to help. I wonder who will send any now to us. lol yea right.


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We are getting some grooling pictures (i think i just made up a word) of whats going on in New Orleans.
I saw massive destruction to the whole city and people breaking out from their houses through the roofs. The amount of people that are stuck in that city is crazy and now there were reports that people have started to pull out guns and shoot at choppers and paramedics that are trying to rescue people from the dome.
It is difficult to understand why the people in the boxing day disaster reacted so differently.
I even saw footage of police looting (if that is what they were doing).


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Also to think Bush took money away from fixing the levy down there to help fund the war... Thank you Mr President!


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There are now confirmed reports of rapes inside the metrodome. They simpley do not have the resources to help all the people gathering in this area. It will get worse yet. It is kind of like the zombie movies. The sheer number is growing and it is getting scary.

Any time large groups of people gather who are starving, needing water and dying.... You will have out breakes of violence. It is a matter of survival down there. I heard a story today about a brother and sister. He shot her over a bag of ice. Shot her in the head.

They are dragging the dead and dying into corners of the metro-dome. There are about 30,000 people there alone inside This isn't counting all the people hanging around outside. There is no running water, trash is over flowing, toilets are of course out of order with no running water. Dead bodies in piles in the corner. Hear comes the illnesses and desease.

Rescue workers stoped boat rescues today saying FEMA ordered them to stop due to safety issues. Now FEMA says they didn't. But which is worse. Stranded on your roof, or in the metro-dome where gangs of thugs with guns rape your wife and daughters.

Home owners are shooting and killing people comeing near thier houses. When the national Guard DO arrive they will of course get some order there... But you can bet there will be gun battles.


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Jesus christ what the fuck is happeneing up there. Sounds like total chaos.
I am going to watch the news in half an hour and maybe get a better understanding of what the government is planning for as a relief effort in Louisiana.


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On Yahoo I read that Bush is going down there to take a look around. But from what I've seen and read, it's total chaos...


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The Canadian Department of Defence is discussing the possiblities of send our DART (Disaster Assistance Response Team) and other members of the Canadian Forces down there to help, not sure what the finally decision will be, Im up for it though


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we need all the help we can get cause as the world can see america doesnt handle disaster all to well...


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Here is what I do not get...

These leveys that held the water back, they knew that one day a huricane could come up and wipe them out flooding the city. It was allways thought that they could use the metro-dome as a shelter for mass amounts of people. Did any one even attempt a plan to rush in food, water and medical supplies. I mean the huricane was on Monday. It is Friday and the Feds might get there today... How many people have dies that had supplies been available they would have lived.

How many infants have now died since they must be fed like every 4 hours. In 1999 I was in the U.S. Army and hurican mitch hit central and southern america. The next day I was on a CH-47 headed down there on a relief mission. I sat there for 4 months with thousands of other troops. Now they were able to cordinate flying over other countrys, getting permission from multiple governments to land and disspatch troops so that the next day things were in motion. But here in the US we can mobilize in 5 days time? Really, are we that full of middle men that it takes 5 days to respond to a disaster?

I have heard reports now that children have been raped and murdered. I think I will be sick

I do not know which is worse? Killing a child or letting them grow up with some of these images in thier memorey. There are whole families that now say they do not want to even be alive any more.

Personally I would walk my happy ass and family across that damn bridge. An average human walks 3 miles per hour at a casual stroll. In 7 hours that is 21 miles. It isn't like you have much else to do. Start walking at night to keep cool and sleep in shade during the day. Find a car fuck it, steal it and drive as far away as you can. Then contact UGN and ask someone to build me a donate to my cause now, Return the car in the news for attention and get a job, money all that shit, because everyone feels like you did it to save your family


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Looking at all that is happening makes me very thankful giz, trey, and i are in the pacific northwest. It's just so hard to believe that as a country the usa can help others faster than we can help ourselves. WTF is up with that?

Now you also have these gas station across the country going "OMG! We might run out of gas so lets stick it to everyone and charge then $6/gal." Way to go! Turn a profit on others misfortune... Fuckers...


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Two gas stations around me ran out today

The figures from Tripple A are off by a dollar or so for my area. They are about 1 dollar cheaper than anything I see in Washington D.C./Maryland area. What is really odd is there is a gas station by me run by some arabic/rag head people. They allways have the highest prices. Today they were about 70 cents cheaper than everywhere else...


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Since we're on the topic of gas now for those of you guys who drive in the USA and Canada this website will tell you who has the cheapest and most expensive prices in your area: GasBuddy


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Quote:
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I saw President Bush got a card from China today... They feel real bad for what happened. Now every major desastor we send mucho money to help. I wonder who will send any now to us. lol yea right.
I don't have time to properly respond to this thread right now, but I will later. In the meantime, learner, please read this article.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9161198/

People are offering to help, but Bush is having a shitty attitude about it. (big surprise) We need to learn not to be so PROUD, and take the help. This is why most people hate Americans, because everyone thinks we are arrogant assholes. Well, Bush is acting like one with his "we'll get through this ourselves" attitude.


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We'll help everyone else but wont let anyone do the same for us. I'm not proud so let others help. We NEED it!

Ya know it just poped into my mind the fact that when other countries do stuff it is 100% our business and we have to put our 2 cents in along with trying to take over but when shit happens here our government tells these same countries we dont want their help cause it's not of their buisiness.

Gotta love double standards...


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I think its weird how we are going to give the states 10 million in aid when we gave Indonesia like 1 billion. The reason I find it wierd is because we gave so much money to a country that doesn't even like us yet we gave 1% of the same amount to the states when thier estimates are like 100 billion.
So unless we give more atleast you guys will know that Australia, (your ally in the pacific) paid 0.001%.
Also I think we as a country raised 100 million for the boxing day disaster. I'm pretty sure its going to be hard to raise that much for the states cause generally our opinion of americans is like what girlie said.
I also heard that when we wanted to send in a rescue team for our people in the city New Orleans, the white house knocked back the clearance we needed. So we had to set up a consulate some place far away in texas .


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Ok, now it's time for Girlie's bitch session.

Since the beginning of this topic I decided to do a little bit of research, since for unknown reasons I am always interested in these horrible disasters.

After reading, now I'm pissed. Bush's response to this whole ordeal is sickening. I wonder why? Could it be because the people in New Orleans were/are mainly black, poor americans--not exactly Bush voters. I'm left to wonder if it were white rich Texans if they would have waited so long for help? Then when Bush finally does get around to getting off his ass instead of sending troops in with food, water, and medicine he sends them in with guns to shoot looters. Which is an entirely different thing in and of itself. Most of the pictures and things I've seen of "looters" are people surviving. These is a difference between looting and doing what you need to do to take care of yourself and your family. If it were me you can bet your ass I'd be breaking into a store to feed my children if that's what I had to do. You want to shoot the people that are stealing TV's and Rolex watches? Fine...shoot them. I think your efforts would be better placed rescuing the HUMANS off the rooftops, but hey what do I know. Shooting to kill the people that are going around raping people and attacking the vulnerable is a different story. Shoot them, there is no excuse for that kind of behavior no matter what.

Most everything I've read focuses around these people were told to evacuate. This comes down to being poor. The ones left behind are most likely the ones without much money. I know if I was told to evacuate or else I'd be in a world of hurt right now too. (especially with gas at nearly $4/Gallon) How are these people supposed to evacuate when many of them do not own a vehicle and don't have the money for a ticket out of town? Besides the fact Bush knew this was coming, and it took him how many days after to figure out what he was going to do about it? Russia was ready to send aide within 24 hours. (which Bush refused) Another country can take the proper steps to help us in a timely manner, but Bush can't...then he's going to refuse the help of someone else even though he's not prepared to do shit? WHO is he to refuse help? These are people's family members that are dying needlessly...why? because they didn't vote for our leader...that's why. He has no problems sending OUR money to other countries to help them, which don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with that, but when it comes time to help your own people are you going to turn your back on them? You know part of the reason for the war in Iraq was because Saddam was allowing people to die in south iraq, how is Bush any better? The survivors from the hurricane now have to try to survive the disease and famine because our fucking president can't get off his ass and do something.

I'm also left to wonder where the local government is for this city? Remember 9/11 and how Guiliani kept the peace and consoled everyone, and acturally took ACTION. Where the fuck is New Orlean's local government?

President Bush is to blame along with several other federal and local officials of our USA for the travisty that has happened to the Gulf Coast. We are the greatest Super Power in the world and supposedly have a whole military division that can drop out of the sky anywhere in the world within minutes of dispatch, and secure whole cities and some small countries in no time. Now we have a disaster at home, and our government waits days instead of hours after the storm to send in our military for support and aid. It's appauling. If we didn't have all our resources and money in another country maybe our response time would have been more accurate. It doesn't matter whether these people are Black, White, Yellow, or Purple. Hell, for that matter it doesn't matter if they're all Americans, what matters is that these suffering people are human beings on the soil of the greatest super power in the world, and we as that super power have failed them. I feel ashamed of our government. If we had been there in the hours after the devastation instead of days then the cities could have been evacuated and locked down and the thugs would have been twarted. Now we have let them get too far out of hand and they will most likely have to be killed in order to secure the other human beings that need to survive. If it takes us this long to respond to something we KNEW was coming how long will it take to respond to an attack which God forbid we had no warning of?


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