#22694 - 06/06/03 08:03 PM
Hello Again
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Titanium Fox
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Junior Member
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Salt Lake City, UT
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Hey everyone! I doubt most of you remember me, but I was the second adminstrator to be here when Blackbeard used to run the joint. I left on a mission to Africa about 3 months after Optix Illusions setup the first UBB about 4? years ago.I've lost track of time. It's dissappointing to see some old faces but I've come to track down a few of the highlighted members. It seems Optix Illusions isn't here anymore, but I'd do what anyone would do and search the board for his name on clues why. It seems Optix Illusions and Gizmo had a difference in the minds. I got ahold of Optix and Blackbeard. Turns out Blackbeard owns his own hosting company and Optix is about to finish college. I realize that people haven't been able to contact me. But I've found a few of you. It seems this place turned into a kids fun house. Being that by the looks of the posts most people may be under the age of 14? Not to put any disrespect but an army shows as their leader is. So what's this gathering? In Portland, Oregon? Sounds like fun, but I think we have enough rednecks in Utah. Seems like you guys didn't set that one up all too well. Also what I've noticed was the banners. UGN was banner free, and proudly supported. I still have yet to get into the groove with this place but I do plan on visiting this place now and then. Also the site used to be immaculate, now it's well, Very very messy.Also with the way certain disclaimers look, they don't seem to be able to be disclaimers that will hold up in court if anyone wanted to press charges on Ugn But still it's great to see that this site is still up and the burden was taken off Blackbeard. Also I think I slightly remember Gizmo here as a newbie. Wasn't too sure about it though. From your attitudes I see most of you don't care, but Optix Illusions is now a part of Linux Lamers, and I remember Xuno, IceDog, and Predator who seem to hang out there as well. Turns out they all run thejoint (Horribly atm because of their conflict with having social lives). Last we heard IceDog and Optix are going to party in hawaii for 5 weeks (I wanna come dudes!) and they're setting up a conference in Cancun mexico from the rumors going around. (Seems like they've got their [censored] situated). Since the only people I knew aren't on this server really, I plan on being on Linux Lamers for a while. I also plan on hanging out at least until they finish the site. I don't know how many of you remember me, but I'd be more then happy to hear from you if you e-mailed me. [email protected] Until we meet again... TTFN Titanium Fox
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#22701 - 06/07/03 06:07 AM
Re: Hello Again
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Gremelin
Community Owner
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Community Owner

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Portland, OR; USA
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See, Ti Fox, you should hear both sides of a story...
Optix and I had more than a dispute of how UGN should be ran, he ran UGN into the ground, he talked smack to EVERY one of the affiliates and pissed each and every one of them off, his whole plan was to run it down into nothingness so that he could be it's "savior"...
And UGN is as it's always been, a place of public speach and (geared towards) knowledge. Granted that most of the community is >18 at least people are still geared towards wanting to know how the box works and thinking outside of it as opposed to being inside of it and doing as their told.
And whats this about "it's leader" ? Funny, last I looked I was in my 20's, unless something happened that I didn't hear about...
And Portland doens't have redneck's, the only redneck I've seen is some crazy mother [censored] who wears 3 pairs of sweatpants over a pair of jeans on the bus lol...
The gathering fell through because it isn't free, it was basically an attempt to get people together, but since it's not someplace flashy like Hawaii or Las Vegas (I'm not moving back afterall) some people don't want to do it.
UGN has banners to help support it, granted I do have a Job and should be able to maintain it, but I believe that something "popular" should be able to maintain its own. As for it always being "banner free" it did once have banners when beard owned it, in fact the Advertising section is his work.
I know that the site is sort of "dirty" with the coding, but I don't know MySQL for [censored] and I'm always working so I don't have the time nor the resources to sit all day and code, hence why bits and peices are up when I have the time to put them up.
And when I "joined" UGN, I wasn't a "newbie", I have Weeve to back me up on that, UGN was just a place to sit back and get to know people and learn some tricks of the trade, which is what I always loved and always have tried to provide.
It is however good to see you around again, I do honestly hope to get a chance to talk with you some more and catch up on whats been going on with life.
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#22702 - 06/07/03 09:07 AM
Re: Hello Again
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12
Titanium Fox
Junior Member
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Junior Member
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Salt Lake City, UT
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I honestly look at that response as nothing but a defense. And from what I've heard, I would like you to explain what the word affiliate means. Blackbeard also stated that the banners he had on the site, did not support the site in any way and were links to friends sites. As a way to maintain itself stores and perhaps tech support would be another way And for anyone else who see this. Usless Trivia: Oregon holds the most trailor parks compared to any other state west of wyoming. California is a very big state
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#22706 - 06/07/03 08:26 PM
Re: Hello Again
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Titanium Fox
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Salt Lake City, UT
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Food for thought: (Wow I feel like I'm being cornered as one of few who like Optix Illusions)
If you were in a situation where you 2 were the only ones who really took care of the place, while having to deal with very busy social and business lives, wouldn't you want something you give your free time, to be controlled and in order?
If you look at the amount and haved asked them personally about thier lives, you would know why some people do these things. Unfortunately it's rare for people to have extremely active social lives and be in this scene at the same time. I guess it shows you something about the unique opportunity we've all had by knowing 2 of them at the same time.
As for Optix Illusions running UGN into the ground? I believe from the amount of chat logs i got on his server (not linux lamers, and compared to the logs i've seen for the past year and a half on the irc server) was Optix Illusions and Icedog were wise beyond thier years. They would deal with UGN the way they felt they should. It points to the age difference and maturity levels within current and previous admin.
And since I had a list of older members from a few people I've been in contact with, I have also realized the disappearance of members who liked Optix and Icedog, also I have noticed who's been mature about the situation, so it doesn't show much about the people here.
Who are you to judge one another, as well as having libel terms on this board about them? Can you honestly say that you would verbally attack Optix Illusions or Icedog to their faces if you were alone standing in front of them? Don't answer that, it will cause more contraversy on here and this would become an extremely dramatic thread. So lets end the arguement on that note.
I've come to see, well a halt in the site here. The information you learn goes from sub-newbie, to newbie. Where are the texts for people who still have a thirst for knowledge? Or is this UGN - The Shuttle to the plane before you gain more knowledge.
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#22710 - 06/08/03 06:23 AM
Re: Hello Again
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Gremelin
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Portland, OR; USA
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And if you look at it, Portland has the most porn stores and strip clubs per city in the United States. Also, if you look at it, Newberg (Oregon) has the most churches per city in the United States...
Wow, lets see, we have trailer parks, appartments, porn shops, no sales tax, tons of churches, damn, we sound like mormon's...
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#22711 - 06/08/03 02:29 PM
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Imperial
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.....I liked Optix and Icedog
I am the Lizard King I can do anything
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#22713 - 06/08/03 10:40 PM
Re: Hello Again
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Titanium Fox
Junior Member
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Junior Member
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Salt Lake City, UT
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Food for thought: (Wow I feel like I'm being cornered as one of few who like Optix Illusions) Too bad you guys, "Liked" them. Sin - P-e-t-t-y, as in a petty felony. And thank you Gizmo for making a point on the no state tax. Pergesu explain that one in oregon, when housing up there is only 300-400$/month for a decent apartment. But to get away from this part of the conversation, anyways yeah some of you just ignored the post and said hi. Hi to you too. So what is there to do here really? Nothing?
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#22717 - 06/12/03 09:05 PM
Re: Hello Again
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SilentRage
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OH, USA
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*snickers and opens topic* Titanium Fox Ahh here they are. Since I've come back from my 2-week hiatus, I've been trying to brush up on the latest news. Seems Titanium Fox is the latest news and out to make himself some friends with his great people skills and subtle tact. heh. Finally found where most of your posts are located to check you out. And now for your official welcome to the site. Welcome. I'm - you guessed it - SilentRage. I'm not sure I remember you, you won't remember me. I started at this site in October of 2000. Good to hear the news on Optix. I'm rarely on AIM and that's the only time Optix and I chat. I used to visit the linux lamers site and IRC, but I don't like dividing my attentions. The UGN IRC is my baby and this webboard the focus of great and infamous memories. It is a sad fact that many people have left, like Xun0 who was one of the few who could give me a decent chess game.  In my personal opinion the board hasn't changed much. For the 2 and a half years I've been at this board there has always been and undoubtedly always will be lamers. Just as much as there's always been mature and more knowledgeable people and continue to be in the foreseeable future. But I always look down on crying about the "good old days" or complaining about various real or imagined problems, so that's all I'll say on that. To be honest, I don't think you'll get along well here, and may lose interest quickly. The current blend of active members are not very tolerant of bad attitudes or arrogant demeanors, and the discussion is rarely enlightening (unless you're a newb) and more the chatting between friends - or the beating of chests between enemies. So if you can't get along with the members, there's nothing for you here. The staff however, I'm proud to say, is above par. Gizmo is hardworking despite any personal opinions. He has already proved to me to be more active and involved than beard was in the last year of his reign. This is not his fault of course, we all have our lives to consider. Also our moderators are quite active with the closing and deleting of posts where appropriate. Sometimes TOO active... (private joke) And, to indulge in my own conceit, I myself try to keep things fair in dealing with trouble makers and conflicts. Anytime you - or anybody - has a problem, concern, suggestion, question, or just want to harrass me, just get ahold of me on the IRC (when it's back up), say my name in a channel I'm in, and the computer will beep, and I'll respond if I'm in the house. I'll be watching your progress on the site with interest.
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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