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#2738 - 08/14/02 05:20 AM Microsoft Link
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This is a link to a forum that has a whole lot of interesting stuff to say about microsoft - it's future plans (scary) and more useful information about the their software in general. Gotta check it out. Very informative.
http://neworder.box.sk/board.php?thread=94628&did=edge5304&disp=94628&closed=1


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#2739 - 08/14/02 09:05 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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lol bill gates is taking over the world

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#2740 - 08/14/02 05:29 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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Insane.
There's no way I'll be using Palladium.

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#2741 - 08/14/02 09:01 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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#boycott-ms on efnet

I say we either support this or start our own. There are other platforms and other OS's out there that would love support, and would probably back up a boy cot.

This would mean boy cot every M$ product.

Office
Windows
Money
IIS
Front page
ect ect ect ect.

I am going to try to contact the guy starting the boy cot and put up a support page on my site, if anyone else is intrested and has a site. contact me. I am going to try to put togetther a network of people willing to post info and get some sort of slogan and banner we can all use.

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#2742 - 08/14/02 09:12 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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I have email Chris on New order and asked if he would like to host a boycot site on my site

http://www.WeThe.com (nice ring to it)

I am looking for something before this kicks off guys.

Links to any open source project you know of. I want to contact every developer out there that will be hurt by this if it kicks off and get their support.

To do this we would have to show a united front. if most of the open source sites out there provided info on how this would kill them, and how it would kill free software and how to not kill software it just might have an affect.

M$ is kinda taking a risk here. If this fails before it ever takes off they are in deep shit.

Gizzy want in on this?

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#2743 - 08/14/02 11:18 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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fucking shit, M$ is sick twisted bastards... we will b ripped from the freedom we have right now, I love it so much and if this happened i'd just launch this fucking computer out my window. Its not right, I'll support the boy cot and links on my site, etc about it. FUCK M$, they can keep their shit, I wanna fucking stab bill gates in his fucking forhead and they tar and feather his supporters.


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#2744 - 08/14/02 11:19 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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sorry i got a lil out raged


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#2745 - 08/15/02 01:29 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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would this not violate some sort of law against monopolys? i know microsoft has undergone investigation for that in the past, but wouldn't the government be forced to step in if microsoft gained this much control?


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#2746 - 08/15/02 04:32 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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Lets say the law doesnt stop them, now I know the majority of america isnt too knowledgable about computers but man take away their mp3s and porn and i guarentee some kind of action will be taken, not only is microsoft going to piss millions off i think taking away all freedom is going to make everyone drop them


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#2747 - 08/15/02 09:42 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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i dont think it will actually happen or anytime soon but if it does... im definatly dropping them. Greedy bastards


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#2748 - 08/15/02 12:52 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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Well, I finally read the article. Wow huh? I certainly have my doubts that it'll happen, but I think there's a significant chance that it will. It kinda sucks. Boycott MS? That's a joke. Sorry to crash your hopes in such a tactless fashion, but it won't amount to anything.

What will I do? I'll wait and see what happens. I'll keep my ears and eyes open to monitor the changes in how things go. If I see a way of subverting the system, then I'll go on. If everything happens as microsoft wants it, that's the end of my recreational programming and webdesign. It's the end of using software and playing mp3's I'll never pay for. It may be the end of my interest in the computer.

I used to be against microsoft being broken up by the courts. Now I'm all for it.


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#2749 - 08/15/02 05:50 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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I dont think the boy cot is a bad idea, its good to post your opinion and explain to everyone else y and how they r fucking us and it will b a good informal site for peopel to visit about tho i dont think it will stop ms at all. It will b the end of computing if im that restricted unless i get a $100,000 job or something but first i will customize my new benz with that kinda money .


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#2750 - 08/15/02 07:16 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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Quote:
I love it so much and if this happened i'd just launch this fucking computer out my window.
Im with Moff there, and ever since i heard about this ive talked to several people and they all agreed if microsoft does this the internet will be changed forever and i doubt anyone will welcome this. There was a post on another BBS about this and one response i thought was completely true,
"Remember

those who sacrifice freedoms for security get neither"

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#2751 - 08/15/02 07:49 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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Quote:
those who sacrifice freedoms for security get neither"
It bugged me on New order and bugs me here. Gad damn it, if you are going to quote someone,

1.) Give thier god damned name

2.) Get it right.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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#2752 - 08/15/02 07:56 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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#2753 - 08/15/02 07:57 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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#2754 - 08/15/02 08:00 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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#2755 - 08/15/02 08:20 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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There are some better quotes that apply a bit better I think.

Now I have been pondering on this, Is it realy that bad? Think about it. The Net would be split into 2.

one side essintially owned by Microsoft
one still free and open.

All the linux servers out there will not run out and all the sudden by this version of windows or upgrade their hardware. IBM has no love for Microsoft, nor dose Sun Microsystems. Right there are 2 harware vendors that just may come out with a hardware solution.

Software alternatives are already inplace. The way I see it, you would have a corperate net under Microsoft... And a net were open source projects and such can flourish. Might even be better...

Do you realy think Apple servers will all the sudden be replace by these Microsoft/P.C. ones? How about other platforms?

Spark stations
Alpha
Apple
http://www.transmeta.com

All of these platforms are still compatable with each other on the net... So word documents will not be able to transfer on the free net. So we use the new standard for the free net.

This could actualy be a chance for some companies to sell a cheaper product with more freedom. I mean when Micrsoft starts deleting out MP3's and porn these other OS's and platforms will have a new found intrest in them.

Now maybe I'm playing Devil's advocate here. I mean just yesterday I was going to start a boycot. But I can easily see 2 nets, and no Microcrooks on te free net.

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#2756 - 08/15/02 08:46 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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I didn't know there was a such a strict policy on quotation. It wont happen again.(also i was quoting Benjamin Franklin i was just repeating what I'd heard on from someone on another board)


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#2757 - 08/15/02 08:47 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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er i mean i wasnt quoting Benjamin Granklin


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#2758 - 08/15/02 08:58 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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Yea I saw that post. He was said one of our for fathers (I forget which one.)

That was the quote he was referring to. It's just if you are going to quote someone... Do it right. Not necessarily a flame on you man. Just a pet peeve of mine.

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#2759 - 08/15/02 10:27 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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hey learner, that had a big impack on me... i was thinking the same, microdick can suck other peoples ass and go their own way while we could stay on the free net and support it, help, and not bitch about. MS could fuck us temp but i think we could live through it and help build and support the free net. We dont need them (althou i do like and use alot of their apps and oses).


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#2760 - 08/15/02 10:28 PM Re: Microsoft Link
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this is going to be like new revolution, ha


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#2761 - 08/16/02 12:15 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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viva la resistance~


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#2762 - 08/16/02 12:38 AM Re: Microsoft Link
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that would be awesome, creating a new internet i doubt it will even be slow this is the chance every company who tried to sue microsoft has been waiting for if they help pay for a more linux/mac dominated internet many will switch from windows if microsoft's plan works who knows if enough people switch Microsoft may even go out of buisness course Bill Gates still comes out on top im sure he has a few billion tucked away. Then again theres always the possiblity they dont get the OS into the market and things stay the same


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