Hmm, I'd have to say I like this admin team better because I know the admin's better and I'm more knowledgable now, so I can contribute more. I never had any problems with Optix, Beard or Ice, I liked them all. I especially looked up to Ice, he knows SO much and could almost always answer my questions. But I would have to agree with Mojo (Ice Dog if I'm not mistaken?) about UGN now. He said people aren't working on as many projects such as coding, finding exploits and so on. I think this is true. I know SR works on a lot of coding projects, I work on some too (not to the high skill that SR does, but some decent programs), but I don't see a lot. I'm guilty of this too. I'd love to see more people posting exploits they've found, programs they've made, texts they have written and so on. That would make ugn THE ultimate site.