#2772 - 01/09/03 08:12 AM
Newbies
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Skull
UGN Elder
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UGN Elder
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Posts: 55
Iowa
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I was sitting here reading and i came to a revelation. What is the point of helping people who ask, to teach them to hack? with them 9 times out of 10 they will find a new hobbie and drop computers like moldy bread. So why is it that we continue to waste time with them? Somone who really wants to learn to hack wouldn't come here asking how to do it and expect to be spoon fed, they'd come looking for intelegent people to give them a push in the right direction with some good heavy reading. Not any tutorial on hacking, but stuff much more deep. For example, i've been in computers for along time now, and often i just sit down and read random junk about computers on the internet just to further my knowlege. I will often sit at home on a saterday evening and read the rfc's, or other various technical manuals. So long story short, i'm ranting about idiots who come looking for a quick way out. Well their isn't a quick way to hack somone's computer. And yes i know their is [censored] like trojans and what not, but do you really know how to use a trojan, how it works, what it does, or do you just now that your "hacking"
Regards,
Skull
Trust me, if i started killing people, there'd None of you left
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#2775 - 01/09/03 11:11 AM
Re: Newbies
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jonconley
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Sometimes when something is foreign or new territory to someone, they have NO common sense in that area. It does't take more than 5 minutes max (usually 30 seconds) to do a search and/or point someone in the right direction.
When I answer questions, I usually learn a bit myself by reading other answers or looking for an answer.
It is simple, I agree Skull. So if ppl don't want to throw away a minute or two of there life here or there, then don't. There will be someone, and if no one is willing, they might have to give up or look themselves.
Very seldom do ppl come back and ask step by step through something. Ex. ask a question, get answer, and come back asking the next thing to do,etc.
So I come here to contribute, hang out, and help. And I think the majority of ppl here do for the same reason. I learn alot more one on one, talking in IRC, etc.
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#2776 - 01/09/03 02:41 PM
Re: Newbies
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,146
Ice
UGN News Staff
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UGN News Staff

Joined: Nov 2002
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Canada
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Ya, I agree with most of you. Like the guy that posted, I am a newb, Please help in the Newbie section, Did he ever come back and ask why we falming him. NOPE. Did he post in any other Section, Nope. Did he vsisit us at the Irc Server, NOPE. Thats how much he cares
So ur right, No need to waste ur time on people like that, People who careless about computers
Mostely its about being "KOOL" to them. SO they can show there friends, LOOK i defaced a site I am "KOOL"
HEH, So i agre with all the posts i seen on this topic
Good artists copy, great artists steal.
-Picasso
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#2777 - 01/09/03 06:56 PM
Re: Newbies
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Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,273
SilentRage
DollarDNS Owner
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DollarDNS Owner

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,273
OH, USA
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I've been thinking about starting a tutorial or lecture or something on how to hack. Despite the topic, it would mostly teach about how the internet works, and ports and servers, and the concept on what an exploit is and what it means, and info on how to teach yourself to move on from there. Quite simply they don't know where to start. Even if they're a smart help-themself guy it can be quite frustrating if you have NO knowledge in the area. No basis from which to grow. I've been thinking about making a concerted effort in giving that basis.
And as for people who don't make the cut. Who cares? I enjoy helping out people. Part of it is I enjoy showing my knowledge in a given area - a show-off complex I guess. Another part is the challenge of expression. To teach in such a way that it gets learned. I actually find it fun to say something - and the listener says they don't understand. So I paint the concept in easier to understand ways and feel the satisfaction in knowing they finally got it.
I've actually considered a career in teaching in the past, I enjoy teaching so much.
(P.S. Skull, to get ahold of me, you'd have to be in my chan before 11:00 PM Central.)
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#2779 - 01/09/03 09:36 PM
Re: Newbies
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,146
Ice
UGN News Staff
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UGN News Staff

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Canada
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Ya, most people that come here and dont know anything about computers and ask how to HACK, Should get flamed a little. If you have no knowledge about a computer, What makes you think that they understand all that hacking stuff, Ports, Servers, Languages, Protocals, Operating Systems etc...
There prb some guy that wants to looks "kool" infront of his buddies when he gets there Password on Hotmail like Cyber Said
Good artists copy, great artists steal.
-Picasso
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#2786 - 01/14/03 03:25 AM
Re: Newbies
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Mornse
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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