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#29067 - 03/20/03 04:24 AM War
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Well, it's total war...


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#29068 - 03/20/03 06:02 AM Re: War
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Oh yeh, I have a cold! lol...

I was watching the tv as bush gave his speach, I just sat here laughing :x... I'm officially a crazy sadistic fuck .


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#29069 - 03/20/03 06:59 AM Re: War
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it's ok gizzy. today jonathon said he hopes this war lasts for a really long time because then more people will die. he wants as many people to die as possible. i agree.


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#29070 - 03/20/03 07:47 AM Re: War
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That's the most fucked up mentality around... you don't have to agree with the war, you don't even have to support the decisions that were made. But to want people to die? I don't know how anyone could think that. Ya gotta realize that the soldiers that are fighting don't have a choice. I doubt many of them actually want to fight a war. They'll support it, because they've taken an oath to, but as far as wanting to fight, that's not the case. They put faith in their country and are doing what their leaders feel is best, that's just how it works. I don't see anything wrong with being against this war, or against the decisions that are being made, it's commendable. But at least hope that not many people die, on either side.

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#29071 - 03/20/03 03:53 PM Re: War
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#29072 - 03/20/03 07:04 PM Re: War
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I laughed my ass off when Bush said "this is not the start of the war."

Well lets see you just bombed thier country looking to kill key government officials. Umm yea act of war.


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#29073 - 03/20/03 08:07 PM Re: War
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Well, I'm totaly against the war myself, there's no need for more people to die. Yes, Saddam must be taken out of power, but there are other solutions than just war. Negotiations can work, supporting the UN is of the utmost importance, otherwise what's the point of the UN, other solutions also. Anyways, I think it's kinda fucked up that you guys want as many people to die as possible (I don't think you guys were being sarcastic, were you?).


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#29074 - 03/20/03 09:34 PM Re: War
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Saddam needs to be taken out, and it's quite reasonable to say that diplomacy did not work. UN weapons inspectors have been in Iraq for a few years since the Persian Gulf War. Did they accomplish what they were sent for? No, because Saddam would not allow them to. Saddam Hussein has continually disregarded UN demands to disarm, and has not done so. With Saddam in power, Iraq poses a very real threat to world stability.

Now as to war: While I do agree that Saddam should be deposed, the idea of starting a full-on strike on Iraq does not sit well with me. However, I do agree that we should do whatever is deemed necessary.

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#29075 - 03/21/03 12:19 AM Re: War
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I am totally against this war, and I have nothing but contempt for the USA for their actions in violating international law and the process of the United Nations. The USA must be held accountable for their actions. In my eyes the USA is now a completly hypocratic nation by violating the very rules they sought to impose on others. Utterly disgusted is about how I feel.

And before the americans here get all uptight and defensive (or offensive, knowing yanks =) I should point out that my comments are not directed at every living american. Just your government. I know and respect quite a few of the americans here, and something like this will not make me blindly hate all livings americans. But either way, it is now the USA that is in the wrong.

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#29076 - 03/21/03 12:38 AM Re: War
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I agree much to what Unreal said. For me I don't have anything against Iraq, anyone from there. Saddam is an issue and he needs to be taken out, yet I don't like that we are having a full out war... However I also feel that the UN was very useful for many years but after some time have grown to not work well anymore, many countries are killing their own ppl, the UN needs to see this... I hope that things can improve for all of the world.


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#29077 - 03/21/03 12:53 AM Re: War
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Well we have tried nagosheating but it didn't work but do u actally think that suddam is going to keep his end of the bargain... they started a act of war on September 11 thats the way i see it but in any war there are going to be cavilan casualties

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#29078 - 03/21/03 01:16 AM Re: War
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I find it all kinda funny, after forcing them to disarm, we bomb the living shit out of them and they launch 4 missles at us. That completely legitimizes our war right there. We have our proof. They kept 4 missiles cause they knew we were coming into beat the fuck out of there faces. Thats kinda fucked when we have to do this to a country with 4 missles. I mean look at all this money we're wasting. Do you know how expensiev these 'smart bombs' are that we are using? If were going ot go to war i think we should just go in kill everyone and be blunt about what were really doing. We'll make iraq the 51st state. No one will stand up to the U.S. we buy to much shit from the other countries, their economies depend on us.

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#29079 - 03/21/03 02:28 AM Re: War
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Ya gotta realize that the soldiers that are fighting don't have a choice.
hrmmm.. except they DO have choice in the fact that they know what being in the army entails. if they didn't want to go to war then they shouldn't have joined the army!

and anyway... we were only 75% serious about wanting people to die.


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#29080 - 03/21/03 02:52 AM Re: War
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whats the deal with the UN debating our actions, if they were afraid to hit Iraq they definitley wont touch the US and its allies


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#29081 - 03/21/03 04:49 AM Re: War
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Me being previously quoted as hoping people die. Let me correct that, I hope Americans die. Now, I apologize to everyone who knows a soldier, they can live, kk.

However, I view America as the evil police here. Mind our own fucking business. And hmmm, what happens if we go in there and lose 150 ppl like last time... we have absolutely no problem going into other countries if they have something we want or don't agree with.

YOu think it would have been as easy for bush to goto war with IRAQ if we have lost atleast a few 1000 last time??? Hell no.

So I say I hope we don't go in and whoop there ass. I hope we go in and it is long and drawn out and we get whooped too. Win or Lose, we will have a different mentality.. Be taken down a notch.

Sure you say, oh, what about if that happening, means N Korea attacks us. Well, we knew NKorea was a bigger threat before we even started this, so I wouldn't feel bad.

Call it unamerican, Call it inhumane, I don't fucking care. All I want is American to get knocked on there ass, so we stop going into countries and inflicting death, our morals, our religion, and placing puppets there who will later commit atrocities and result in us going back in again.

Stop the GREAT HYPOCRISY, stop the US.

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#29082 - 03/21/03 05:14 AM Re: War
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First of all, I am glad someone sort of shares my opinion: Unreal.

Second of all, Infinite: shut the fuck up. If the US Gov't should be held acctable for it's actions, then so should Saddam, and every other person in the world.

Jon- hoping america gets knocked on it's ass for this is just childish. I still have respect for you, but that is just totally childish.

Saddam Hussein has been defying the UN for twelve years. There is 85 missing liters of Anthrax. He has gased the Kurds in the north and other people, he tortures people. He kills anyone who speaks against him. He is evil, and the Iraqi citizens would be crazy to not want to be free. There is enough reason right there.

But, I don't support or protest the war. I am just sick of stupid hippies protesting without good reason. I have decided that the people that know most about the situation are the ones in charge. We don't have the CIA and a board of advisers for no reason. And the mainstream media is skewed, full of vultures. The rest of the media is unreliable. We don't know what's going on, so we should stop pretending like we know everything.

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#29083 - 03/21/03 06:47 AM Re: War
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I killed an iraqi today, it was fun...

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#29084 - 03/21/03 06:49 AM Re: War
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It's going to be sad when the only casualties in this war are from us crashing our own fucking helicopter...


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#29085 - 03/21/03 06:51 AM Re: War
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dude, no one died and they got the chopper back in the air, so says the news on the radio

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#29086 - 03/21/03 06:57 AM Re: War
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However, I view America as the evil police here. Mind our own fucking business. And hmmm, what happens if we go in there and lose 150 ppl like last time... we have absolutely no problem going into other countries if they have something we want or don't agree with.
This argument, in my opinion, is a product of navet spouted by the misinformed. It is so easy to raise our fists and ramble on about "minding our own business," that we fail to see the big picture.

It is therefore prudent to ask ourselves this: Who's business is Iraq's business?

Iraq, with Saddam Hussein in power, poses a very real threat to not only the United States, but to many countries.

Saddam speaks of "Jihad," Holy War. Ask yourself, in the name of Jihad, what lengths would a madman go to ensure the integrity of the Islamic people? With Saddam having access to weapons of mass destruction, this thought is a sobering one.

As an informed and judicious people, we must remove Saddam from power before these weapons may be used on innocent people around the world.

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#29087 - 03/21/03 07:11 AM Re: War
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When did you have the time to kill an iraqi? Was this inbetween the whining on IRC and your pager about wishing you were dead?


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#29088 - 03/21/03 12:46 PM Re: War
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Originally posted by Gizmo:
When did you have the time to kill an iraqi? Was this inbetween the whining on IRC and your pager about wishing you were dead?
haha.

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#29089 - 03/21/03 01:45 PM Re: War
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Iraq defied the UN.

So has the United States, and the US defied the Security Council after it ruled acts we commited as Terrorism.

Saddam gassed thousands of Kurds? With gas given by US, using equipment given by US.

IRAQ has chemical weapons, given by US.

Saddam started the first war by invading Kuwait, after OKing it with us. But then he tookover too much of Kuwait, and daddy bush went over there b/c he feared his puppet might have too much oil control and not be a friendly anymore.

So yeah, I got a fucking problem. And it isn't misinformed, unless you don't count government documents as a credible source.

I understand Saddam is bad. I am just saying there are many other dictators exactly the same, and the "reasons" we are going to war are reasons that could be applied to the US as well. So if some other felt like playing "world cops", they would have reason to attack us.

So I say, put out the doublestandards, point out the hypocrisy, and admit why we are really in there.

As for the point about a madman using weapons to harm people. Maybe they can take a lesson from us and blow up medical facilities on the hunch that they could possibly be producing chemical weapons. Then check it out afterwards.. oops. But of course, the US would never do that, just those damn crazy middle easterners.

Gimme a break, if we couldn't wait another fucking day, b/c he may be making weapons, look @ NKorea.

Oh yeah, and did they ever prove that link to Bin Laden? Nope.

So do not lecture me. We don't have the fucking right to decide every other countries moral standings and what we will and will not tolerate.

And if you think we do, well the time will come when you will see what a situation we have put ourselves in. Like Saddam's son said, "9-11 will look like a picnic."

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#29090 - 03/21/03 11:39 PM Re: War
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i'm with Fook. kill the hippies! yesssssssssss. die you liberal hippie scum! die! yeah.. go dance around in your little fields of daisies. do it without wearing any shoes. never shower. never cut your hair. smoke your weed and take your lsd. and ya know what? i'll be right there with my fuckin sniper rifle, taking all you dirty fuckers out. one by one.

ahhh. sorry. i just really hate hippies.

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#29091 - 03/21/03 11:44 PM Re: War
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