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#48255 - 04/10/09 05:17 PM new to hacking
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hey im new to hacking n stuffs..can any1 suggest me what to start wit??which operating system is better??

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#48256 - 04/10/09 05:34 PM Re: new to hacking [Re: mclilme08]
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Well it all depends on what you intend to do... Honestly, a solid programing background is your best bet...

I'd recommend that if you intend to be mallitious with programs, that you learn about C++, TCP/IP, Windows, etc.

Which OS is better, well, that lies on the user; I'd recommend studying up on Linux (along with C++ and TCP/IP); you'll find plenty of scripts on our affiliate site PacketStorm (a lot of which no longer work, but they'll show you coding examples).

If you intend to "test vulnerabilities with web servers and web scripts" then I'd highly recommend you learn PHP (and possibly ASP as well).

It's a long road, but a solid coding background is definately helpful more than much else.


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#48263 - 04/11/09 05:47 PM Re: new to hacking [Re: Gremelin]
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thanks fo the post
im currently doin c++,vb6,perl.
currently workin on keyloggers in vb6..btw
anyidea bout trojan coding??i mean in c++
hope to hear frm u
tc

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#48266 - 04/12/09 06:03 AM Re: new to hacking [Re: mclilme08]
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Well, I'm not going to be a retard and teach you how to code malicious software; i will however point you in the proper directions to learn how to code, in which, see my previous posting.


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#49955 - 12/27/09 01:36 AM Re: new to hacking [Re: Gremelin]
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I would say that you could start by learning perl and python first, this is always a topic of debate amongst me and the professors (about a third agree with me). I think that VB is meant for building fully functional programs that are complex in nature and that it includes to much additional stuff that is not necessary for learning the basics of programming which is what is important anyway. I believe the current leading theory is that you learn the conceptual notions behind programming in whatever language so that changing languages is just a matter of syntax, the UC system in Cali follows this approach. I am still just a second year student though and thus some of the more experienced posters may have a more heavily weighted opinion.

As for OS, I like BSD, I wish I had forced myself to learn to navigate through several flavors of Linux at an earlier age, retrospectively the earlier the better (go with Ubuntu for ease of access and use). As for Trojans and key-loggers and what not I have about 200 different "skiddie" style create a worm/batch virus/ RAT progs that I can send to you if you pm me (I have a few vids of them being used as well, I also have disassembly programs so if you do not have one you can dl them without having to fear that its a virus). They are fun, but they do not teach you much and you can destroy your system pretty quick, Ive had to reboot a few of my sacrifice comps when my code wasn't controlled.
Yea I would also get acquainted with nmap,wireshark,etheral(I say sniffers over keyloggers any day but this is an opinion), backtrack 4, and honestly google... its your best friend. Really.
Happy Hacking dont wanna drone on.

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#49956 - 12/28/09 12:34 AM Re: new to hacking [Re: roguex404]
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As Gizmo stated we don't condone malicious behavior nor will we help you write malicious code; that being said, if you are curious how some of these programs work post in the appropriate programming forum. Debuggers such as OllyDbg can dissassemble executables into machine code and then perform basic analysis and tell you exactly what a program is doing. It isn't easy to dive into but google is your friend. Search for "CrackMes" and you'll find plenty of write-ups on "reverse engineering." This is essentially what antivirus programs do.

I recommend making the switch to linux. Either install a program such as "VMWare" or a free alternative such as VirtualBox if you are uncomfortable making changes to your boot sector for a dual boot. Go with gentoo. It will be the hardest os you've ever installed, but their online manual is easy to follow -- think of it as a learning experience. http://www.gentoo.org/

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#50159 - 01/19/10 09:40 PM Re: new to hacking [Re: ninjaneo]
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lol gizmo, where is the mod that burnt the guy who opened a thread with such noobish titles slash questions straight up.

just sayin


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#50286 - 02/05/10 07:39 AM Re: new to hacking [Re: Artic Warrior]
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My favorite os is linux mint because it is visually appealing. But a very good os to get familiar with is debian

Check out distrowatch.com they have a very wide selection of free os's


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#50294 - 02/06/10 05:16 AM Re: new to hacking [Re: TheAnt1H3ck]
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I have quite a decent list of Linux OS' as well as Linux Apps (for those changing to Linux) over at GoNix.org.


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