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#5146 - 03/14/03 11:11 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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*clap clap*. LOL, well it's doing a good job. It is a very interesting topic.


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#5147 - 03/15/03 01:09 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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.. not really but I'll go along with it anyways. 6 months ago I would have agreed w.you.


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#5148 - 04/03/03 10:12 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Man i hadnt smoked weed for almost three months then yesterday i had a couple bowls. I have more but am gunna save that for Wednesday. Man I had so much fun. We were on a church trip to the mall. Got stoned in the bathrooms. Then came home 4 of us chilled at my house. Went for a walk had some more weed. Then we went to the movies. Then the person i was with gave me some for laters. I am happy. I was so happy yesterday. It was some good stuff. Wish it would have been knife hits though. Thats the best way! We had a stupid lame pipe. Oh well its weed!!!


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#5149 - 04/03/03 10:33 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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why smoke anything that makes you dumber? is stupidness that popular? guess i'm not hip.


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#5150 - 04/03/03 10:55 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Some of us have braincells to waste. And rather than drink some alcohol, breath oxygen, or even smoke a cigarette, some ppl like to smoke weed. So tons of shit kills brain cells, the real question isn't "are you going to kill brain cells?", it is 'Are you going to have fun doing it?"

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#5151 - 04/03/03 11:08 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Also you only use 10% of your brain. What am i gunna do to the other 90%.... hmmm i wonder. Why just let it sit there why not have fun?


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#5152 - 04/04/03 05:54 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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"Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading Skeptical Inquirer, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another."

http://www.csicop.org/si/9903/ten-percent-myth.html


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#5153 - 04/04/03 06:12 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Moved to debate.


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#5154 - 04/04/03 06:33 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Marijuana is like any other drug, it should be used in moderation. "As long as it doesn't harm you, why would it bother you".

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#5155 - 04/08/03 05:07 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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weed does harm you though.


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#5156 - 04/08/03 07:03 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I got another reason Drugs are bad. Me and a friend were at a party and we were fucked up, we walked to the gas station and on the way back it got dark. We couldnt find his house so we wondered around for about 3:00 am and we were out of it. Well i was seeing and hearing shit when all of a sudden i saw my other friend wave at me from a window or so i though... so we went inside and sat down 10 mins later we found out this was my friends house that had the party and ran out. 5 mins latter we were picked up my the pigs

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#5157 - 04/09/03 12:28 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hmm, looks like the problem there exists with you and your friend and not with the drugs. If people aren't responsible and do not use things in moderation, then bad things like that, can happen. Hell, if yo wanna be stupid and OD on tylenol, you can become sicker than a dog. So my point it, the drugs aren't a problem, your maturity at the time is. Seeing and hearing stuff? Pick a better situation and mindframe to trip in. Get a trip sitter. Know your limit.

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#5158 - 04/09/03 01:03 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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lmfao, what dumbasses

drugs arent bad

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#5159 - 04/09/03 01:41 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Ares, great adventure! LOL. Shit well it varies per a person, thoughts on drugs and how they can handle it. Some people have an idea what they are doing, can remember whats going on, even though things are fucked up. Point is, if you are one of em people who can't be outside when high dont go outside lol. So far we been talking about weed, weed, weed.... The topic is drugs are bad... I don't see a problem with weed, as long you know your limit. However I do have to agree there are bad drugs out there that can really fuck up your body.


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#5160 - 04/11/03 07:03 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hmm, i guess people around here like to make themselfs alot dumber than they are from the beginning. weed make you dumb...i want to stay sharp.


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#5161 - 04/11/03 05:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hmm well the issue is that hasn't been exactly proven. Sure we lose brain cells but that doesn't mean we stop making new ones. I mean you are saying every stoner is moron. I know a kid in my grade who is a heavy stoner and he gets nothing lower then at 90 in any of his classes, he is very bright.


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#5162 - 04/11/03 07:22 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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studies show that braincells grow back, they take about 7years, im talking about loss from weed usage, nothing hardcore.

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#5163 - 04/11/03 08:13 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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hkzknight: are you talking high school classes or college classes? cuz getting good grades in high school isn't shit. unless you're from europe, they have hard schools. but american high schools are too easy. hell.. even most basic college courses are simple. now, if he was studying quantum computing and still doing that well.. ok then, you've made a point.


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#5164 - 04/12/03 10:22 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Actully it varies per HS, the New York ones are toughest (damn regions). He is a friend of mine in College doing engineering. I can't agree on the fact every stoner is dumb... I am sure you can find some genius stoner out there.


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#5165 - 04/13/03 05:26 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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new york high schools are the toughest? hahaha. but they aren't any good. i went to one of the "best" high schools in the nation... it was fucking easy as hell.

i agree that not every single stoner is stupid... but most are. it's rare to find one that isn't. i know a guy that used to be a huge pothead...he was always highly intelligent. so i know what you're saying. but still.. you have to admit that most people that do drugs are stupid.


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#5166 - 04/13/03 05:51 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Canada eh
/me looks in on the drug topic.

Ph33r! The genius stoner has arrived!!!

I'm in college with a 3.9gpa after my first year. I smoke about a 1/4 ouce a week. I have been smoking that much or more for about the last 6 years.

Weed doesn't make people dumb. Dumb people blame weed for their stupidity when it's nothing more than a bad genepool.

IF YOU SMOKE WEED AND YOU ARE DUMB IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT, NOT BECAUSE YOU SMOKE WEED!!!

Ok, I'm done here

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#5167 - 05/08/03 12:28 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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i agree with u 100% infinite, dumbasses smoke weed and once they get cought and/or arrested they blame their fucking problems on weeed

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#5168 - 05/08/03 12:29 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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btw not all stoners are stupid, like me

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#5169 - 01/03/04 08:05 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hi everyone none of you will know me because i basically signed up to this forum just to be included in this debate cos i reckon its well interesting. Most of you obviously seem to be from america so maybe my contirbution has less relevance as i come from england and the drugs culture i think is quite different nonetheless it might be interesting.
I live in the south of england in a very remote tightnit culture of drug takin, we have all been smokin weed for aobut 3 years or so and i dont think i have not had at least one spliff for less than a week during that time, on average its prolly every other day.
A couple of years ago we all started taking lots of other drugs aswell cos thats what the people older than us were doing at it seemed fun. Consequently i have taken a few different drugs, not loads, but quite a few and actually i reckon that the constant use of cannabis has been the far most damaging thing to me.
I think when the government are campainging against drugs in america and enlgand they could actually give a good argument if they weren't such a bunch of idiots, cannabis changes the chemistry of your head, it doest make you stupid it makes u slower because it raises the level of morpine in your brain as a chemical reaction, someone suffering from psychosis has this exact same reaction going on in their brain, when i used to first use it it was brilliant like we used just get hi and it was cool but now it really starts to mess with my head like i think its messed up my self confidence im often depressed i get paranoid and everything is just different. Now at this point its important to mention that the only weed we get is skunk and its strong stuff, (an interesting fact that you might not know is that nearly all of the cannabis sold in amsterdam is grown in england).
And the annoying thing is everyone who i know has got exactly the same problems but only a few people in the community are atually brave enuf to jus try and give it up and say this is crap, its stupid and it messes up ure head, the culture of weed is twisted since it started in the 60's and is completely built on ingorance. Im still gonna take e cos i go to raves alot and its fun and maybe sesh the trips every once in a while but i think im gonna stop smoking foreva, this may seem strange to alot of you but i think that people should stop and take a step back and look at all the misconceptions that society is giving about drugs like weed, anyone whos scared of drugs because of death is foolish u shuld be scared of drugs because they just change your head period. And this is coming from someone living in a country near to legalising cannabis, they no exactly the spychosis it can induce, the reason its gonna be eventually legalised cos they will get so much money fomr taxing it like they get fomr tobacco, its ridiculous.

Sorry that was a bit of a rant and some of it may not have made sense or been inaccurate but basically i think that people should not be so quick to put weed in a different seriousness to all the other drugs that are described as "hard drugs".
Oh yea and if you actually use Salvia Divinorium in a decent amountand of a decent strength then i can assure that you will trrrrrrrip like nothing u can possibly imagine theres no reason why it shuld be legal in comparioson to lsd or magic mushrooms it jsut dont last as long,
Drugs are bad but i do em cos thats the culture i got and im happy wit it, but i wuldnt advise doin em to neone, isn't that stupid? Neways i am interested in whateva someone has to say agianst all the stuff i jus sed and neone that agrees cos im sure my argument needs alot of refining, cheers

Eddy.

p.s I am totally not a hard core or iresponsible druggy or nething i have always looked into everything and spoken to alot of knowledgeable people about drugs beofer i tried em oh and i dont do addictive drugs, that i can generally afford hehe. peace.

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#5170 - 01/03/04 08:11 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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oh yea i 4got and neone who wants good info on drugs should checkout http://www.erowid.org or http://www.talktofrank.com, erowids betta but check then both out cos they both have benefits and cons in the information they give..

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