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#48 04/05/06 10:15 AM
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Hi.
Have you thought about this; how flawed the human spoken languages are?

1. The "OR"
- "Would you like coffe or tea?"
This statement actually means coffe XOR tea, you
can't have both! But still we use the or like a logical XOR, when the OR in logics will mean (coffe XOR tea ) XOR (coffe AND tea).
Totally outrageous!


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Happy?

Oh, and the "coffee or tea" analogy is wrong. If the statement is a conditional (true/false), The person can't be asking which one you want, he's asking WHETHER OR NOT you want either. So yes, the proper word is OR. If the case was which one do you want, it would usually be stated "Which do you want, coffee or tea?"


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No, since only one can be true at the same time.


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Contextually in spoken language, it's known that a question such as "coffee or tea?" allows for only one choice. If any further clarification is needed for whatever reason, you can add "which would you like?"

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Yes.. meaning that we use the or as an XOR


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now here's a question: who the [censored] cares? the enligh language has been so bastardized that to compare it to anything logical is just plain idiotic.

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Quote:
Originally posted by zenon:
Hi.
Have you thought about this; how flawed the human spoken languages are?

1. The "OR"
- "Would you like coffe or tea?"
This statement actually means coffe XOR tea, you
can't have both! But still we use the or like a logical XOR, when the OR in logics will mean (coffe XOR tea ) XOR (coffe AND tea).
Totally outrageous!
I hope a chick asks you, "Would you like pussy or a blowjob?" and you start babbling about an XOR and how her question is totally outrageous.

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since when was the English language based off of logical opperands?


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Further more considering the grammer, odd spellings, and what not, how can the English language BE logical? Nevermind tossing ing opperands.


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AMEN!

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but I understand what you are trying to get at.

my Discrete Math professor taught the class about XOR and OR by distingusing between OR in English and the OR in logic.

So. Yep.


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While i m waiting around here window shopping,
they should replace 1 letter of the english alpahbet.

It makes better sense to replace the letter X
with the Greek Letter X
Symbolicly it may resemble something like this:

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It would allow "flow".


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