#8930 - 04/26/02 10:32 PM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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Reasons to hack? Well, most people start hacking cause of the rush. For sure back in the day when I started to learn how to hack and felt really l33t0 with my keyloggers, I got a rush several times. It's just thrilling.
Another reason I found to hack is cause of restrictions at school. You want to install Yahoo Messenger but you don't have the permissions - well screw that. Let's crack that SAM file and get the password so that you can have ADMIN and install yahoo messenger like ya wanna!
After that, the only time I've desired to do a 'hack' is when I'm learning something. I wanted to learn how to take advantage of netbios shares. So I learned how to do it, I browsed around on a few people's harddrives, then never bothered with it again. It's the same deal with exploiting IIS web servers. Just wanted to learn how to do it - do it - then never do it again.
That last reason I gave is a rare one. Now-a-days I don't want to be a hacker. Sure, sometimes I may do a hack, but that's not what I enjoy. I enjoy programming. I say that programmer/hackers (reverse engineering and patch making is an example) is a lot l33ter than exploiter/hackers.
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#8937 - 05/01/02 10:27 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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bah, don't be a hacker. Be whatever the hell you want. If the knowledge that interests you the most takes you down that path, then so be it...
"There is no end. There is no beginning. There is only the infinite passion of life." --Fellini
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#8938 - 05/01/02 11:35 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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/me grumbles over what ? said 90% eh? I feel that a lot of us ARE being real. You'd be surprised at the REAL ethics some of these guys hold. And the ones who don't exhibit such ethics don't pretend to have them.  I've argued with some of them on the finer points of ethics - some more some less ethical than I am. As for you, you are 1 of two types of people. Either you're new to this site and making gross assumptions based upon nothing but general experience and actually know absolutely nothing of what you're talking about. Or you're an older member hiding behind a new nick. Some of these guys don't hack, and don't want to ever hack. They just visit for their area of expertise like hardware. Yeah, that's an excellent example. Lots of these guys know hardware and build computers and stuff - but don't know or care one flip about hacking. They just hang out to have fun and knock information and news around. I don't consider this site to be a 'group' where all share and pursue a common interest. This is a community with many varying types of people, and any stereotypical remark would not hold true to even half of the members. /me sits down and folds his hands quietly looking at ? impassively
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#8939 - 05/01/02 01:02 PM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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/me pats SR & thinks he wants admin the hides in corner....
?, as SR said, the rough majority of people here don't hack, if you take into account of most of the scenes, Hacking-Phreaking-Cracking-Anarchy-Porn-Warez kiddies, etc. you'll realise that most people fall into one, if not many. Some people just like to talk, they just stop by to look for friends and others dealing with probs that they are, etc... We're like teenchat, hell we have enough teens :x.
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#8940 - 05/01/02 05:52 PM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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wow SR, you always surprise me, hehe. actaully I got a new comp and lost my password an the old email address too so thats wy I gotta new nick, an I'm not tryin to hide, anyon thats checks my profiles knows who I am.
I did say 90% didn't I, thats cause I know some people, like you, actually love to learn and programm and do have ethics. I'm jus not one of em an over the last 2 years I've realized a lot of other aren't either. not jus here on UGN, but on boards an chatrooms everywhere.
The thing that ticks me off is that everyone wants to act like they're good and that they'e in it for the love of knowledge and all that. I used to be like that too, trying to fit in with the crowd, tryin to live by the hacker manifesto. but then I realized that the only ethics I actually live by are the ones the suite me. It's kinda like religion, people are in it to go to heaven. but when it comes down to not commiting sins all of the sudden they forget about religion. bu they still wear the cross around they're chest. I'm not just talkin bout christians, it's every religion.
I want to aviod becoming one of those people. living my life differently because I'm scard I won't be accepted or something.
I'm not saying hacker ethics are bad and that I don't love learning or something. I still sit in front of my comp 10 hours in a row tryin to figure what that latest exploit does. I still enjoy learing about TCP/IP and all the details. I still lvoe playin with linux and all that.
Here is what I'm trying to say. Be yourself, don't do something beause someone else says it's the right thing to do, do it because it feels like it's the right thing to do.
Which brings me back to this post. If you wanna be a hacker and you say you're looking for a reason to hack you're contradicting yourself. think about it.
well, thats all I gotta say.
I KNOW EVERYTHING. ASK ME.
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#8941 - 05/02/02 09:29 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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i kind of agree with what ? said If you wanna be a hacker and you say you're looking for a reason to hack you're contradicting yourself. think about it. why am i here? common interests for one. there is alot going on here not just hacking. as i type this im setting up my 3rd box this week. i pop in to read to try to help and mainly to learn. ther eis alot to learn out there so its always good to follow your interests it shouldnt be because you want to fit in it should be because it interests you and its what you want to do. just let things flow and it will click. personally im into the security end of things. it takes a thief to catch a thief ya know? if i see whats out here i know how to protect my own puters. i only have a small home lan but still i have alot of time tied up here to come home one day and find things skewered. i dunno building boxes and exploring OSes learning to program etc etc etc its just a natural interest. thats the way it should be IMHO>
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#8944 - 05/09/02 03:09 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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prodx
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i just started out of curiousity. i just want to know :P
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#8947 - 05/29/02 05:48 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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Originally posted by B.B.Gambini: i think i came here about 4years ago after getting the link to the site from my first "Learn how to hack program" i think the program was wrttin by someone called black beard ro red bread or some sh*t like that.
it was blackbeard, the founder of UGN 
Never argue with fools... They will only drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience...
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#8948 - 05/30/02 02:40 AM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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I'm a hacker for one reason. I was pushed around in 1-5 grade and I'm a powerwhore. I also like saying that I did something and accomplshed it by myself. I just like being incontrol. And when you're a hacker you aren't judged by religion or skin color. I just feel comftorable around hackers.
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#8951 - 05/30/02 06:18 PM
Re: A newbie wondering: what are good reasons to hack
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Curse
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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