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#9511 - 11/30/03 06:09 AM Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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OK what i want to know from everyones's point of view is this....

What do u believe is the best OS to use for hacking, and please it can't be windows, hacking with windows is like running up to buckingham palace naked and with i'm an idiot painted on ya chest and thinking no 1 will notice you...

Then again ya never know i could be wrong... also out of linux, which is the best version to use from a hackers perspective...

Honest opinions appreciated....


Software Monkey....

My setup: Windows 2003 Server Enterprise, Visual Studio .net on a cheap and nasty Athlon XP 2400... And so much other crap i can't include...
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#9512 - 11/30/03 06:50 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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You can hack through windows... with a telnet session to a linux box...


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#9513 - 12/01/03 01:39 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Canada eh
you mean an ssh session :p

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#9514 - 12/01/03 03:13 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Depends on how (in)secure the server is ...


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#9515 - 12/01/03 03:40 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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OS has zero bearing on hacking. It will make you neither more or less easy to track down. There is nothing you can do from a linux box that you can't do from a windows box.


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#9516 - 12/01/03 07:41 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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*cough* *cough*
Everyone has their own opinion try both and see which you like :p


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#9517 - 12/01/03 12:40 PM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I totally agree with SR and Gizmo on this. You may be able to find more tools for a certian OS, but there is no real gain from trying to hack on linux as oppose to windows. If it was ME asking this question I would definatly use BlackKnights advise.


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#9518 - 12/02/03 01:17 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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i run both windows 2000 pro and slackware 9.1. i find i use both equally as much.//


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#9519 - 12/02/03 02:54 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I think there are more, easier to find, freely available 'hacking' tools made for linux. Although the same things could be made for windows if the 'hacker' could program. Both platforms support a wide variety of programming languages and every person has thier own preference to which is better. You will have to take blackknight's advice and try them for yourself.
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hacking with windows is like running up to buckingham palace naked and with i'm an idiot painted on ya chest and thinking no 1 will notice you...
Maybe im dumb, but I don't understand this analogy. I don't see how doing anything from windows is more tracable then doing it from linux. Both OSes use the same protocols for internet communications. Is there something I don't know about windows?

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#9520 - 12/02/03 05:34 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Use both, Windows and Linux. Sometimes you need a windows box to use a windows exploit. Sometimes you can only do it in linux. Sometimes you want to play a video game so you need windows, sometime you want to feel leeto so you need linux, heh. what I'm saying is, don't focus on one OS, 75% of PC are still windows so if you want to hack 75% of computers on this world you might want to know something about windows.


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#9521 - 12/03/03 07:14 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I've noticed that no one has mentioned any of the Mac OS's and what about OS 2 or the other weird ones out there, anyone got any opinions (this is just to keep the convo going)


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#9522 - 12/03/03 09:24 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I prefer Geo works which came pre installed on my 286. This is one 1ee7 os. To open an application all I do is double click the icon. Now top that.


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#9523 - 12/03/03 12:28 PM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Slackware, solaris, a bsd variant. Or Bell Labs Unix, all around any use does it with those. But if I had to pick...Slackware without the huge unix registry bug.


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#9524 - 12/03/03 12:34 PM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Remote telnet sessions btw exist in alot more ways then just a ssh shell, if yoiur accessing a terminal that has options, you have a good selection of choices. Wether your connecting from a unix side variant, unice, or a windows, mac, whatever. Code is code, tools are tools, but to know the systems, how they work, simple backdoors(not like back orifice, and linux trojans kthx), bugs that have been there really helps. To have been around, seen shit, learned shit, shared shit, seen that meaning of 0day, not in stolen, or rehashed, reused, corn beef code. Meh, my opinion is captured. Like SR said, all ppl have their own opinion, go test, choose your own. That's to everyone.


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#9525 - 12/04/03 05:43 PM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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#9526 - 01/08/04 03:12 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I do it from XP, and Mandrake


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#9527 - 01/08/04 06:52 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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OpenBSD or slackware for me.

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#9528 - 01/26/04 02:41 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Slacware, old redhat before it was took over by fedora and definately win xp!!!!!

the last one was a joke you know!

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#9529 - 01/26/04 03:59 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Hahahahahahaha....

Hahahahahahahahahahaha...

But no, for real, you're dumb.

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#9530 - 01/26/04 05:58 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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anyone used the PHLAK cd yet? i tried it out for a little bit but wasn't particularly impressed. however, i think the idea is good, and with a bit of modding, it'll probably be one of those cd's that i carry with me when i go out.//


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#9531 - 01/26/04 07:50 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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I saw it, but haven't given it a go yet.... One more thing on the list of things-to-do

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#9532 - 01/26/04 08:25 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Quote:
Slacware, old redhat before it was took over by fedora and definately win xp!!!!!

the last one was a joke you know!
Hahah thats really funny = ). Old Redhat lol... slacware...


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#9533 - 01/26/04 01:49 PM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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wait, i'm confused. i was pretty sure that fedora was a redhat project. and as far as i know there are plenty of tools for windows that you can't find for linux. although, these are mostly commercial tools.//


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#9534 - 01/27/04 06:31 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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if your going to use PHLAK, you should check out Knoppix STD. Its a pretty sweet distro..

Located here: http://www.knoppix-std.org/

Has a many networking and hacking tools.


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#9535 - 01/28/04 04:59 AM Re: Best OS For Hacking, U'r Honest Opinions...
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Muhahahahahahha


There is no such thing as an ultimate hacking OS.
running ./exploit 127.0.0.1 and getting a rootshell ain't hacking. You know what it's called? Being lame.

Anyway 99.99% doesn't even know what hacking is about. It's just something that makes you feel good when you build something up, not when you break something down.

You know what hacking is? finding holes yourself, coding exploits for it yourself, programming some nice things, etc etc. That is what is hacking is about.

So basicly it can be done from any operating system.


oh and monkeytron you are a fool


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