I am currently teaching myself c++ with a couple of books and im planning on learning a bunch of things in the next 3 years...and get some certifications...thats my plan
what certifications should i start with, yea you will all probably say "it depends what you want to do" but i wanna learn it all
im thinking on starting with A+, since it deals with how the computer works, and also memory allocation and the such, which things learned there can be transfered to other things like how you store strings and things...so what certificatinos of things are available, what are they, what do you recommned, and what are you certified on?

im taking A.P. C++ in high school but my teachers a [censored] so it sucks. according to learner, you need to know HTML, PHP, java script, and some other stuff to get a good web site going. get Microsoft certified and you (might) be able to get a well paying job. thats about all this fool(me) knows in this topic

Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco, Novell, linux, A+ and so on and so on... There is too many certifications to get for me to name them all right now, specially each individual one. I myself have a couple of Microsoft certifications and im gonna be takin one of the Cisco ones pretty soon. If you take AP comp sci in school and pass the test you wont get a certification or anything but you'll get credit for college.

oh, and ohfuk, my comp sci teacher 0wnz your teacher and rapes him every night.

my computer sci teacher is a fat, gay, bitchy woman.....seriously. if your computer sci teacher rapes her, well, thats just nasty nasty nasty dirty [censored]. oh damn. bad mental immage...jesus thats [censored] up

A+ is a joke. Yeah sure, it's the basics, but once you actually sit down and see what makes it up you'll see what I mean. I have never even heard of someone failing the exam for it. IMHO having an A+ doesn't really prove anything. Sure you know an ide cable from a printer cable, but that doesn't take a whole lotta skill. Do I have mine you ask??? Well, no. I would if I had the money to write the test, and yes I do want to get it. I'm just saying that just cause you have an A+ doesn't really mean you know [censored] about comps.

I'm working on my CCNA right now (Cisco Certified Network Associate for those who don't know). That cert looks promising in that the material it covers looks interesting and practical. I'm more looking forward to next year when I start on the CCNP. Now there is a cert to ph34r!!!

sum

damnit sum, you're on. its a race for the ccna. i will get it first and 0wn your butt hole.

[censored] CCNA CCIE buddy!

CCNA is the first step towards CCIE. YOu gota go through one to get to the other. And besides, CCIE is like 5 years worth of work, and at the end you gotta go to Cisco for their 2 day lab test. There's like 5 places in north america to get it done. One day hopefully...

And your on CK. But I'll make this easy on ya. I'll have mine somewhere around the end of april/beginning of may 2003. Guaranteed. You have till then to beat me. I'm gonna write my test as soon as possible after he semester is over to help with finding a summer job.

sum

I'd go for a CCNA and a Server2 certification, possibly some linux administration and some oracle. It seems like a lot of work but well worth it.

You like oracle but not MySQL?
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I got a 5 on the AP Comp Sci exam. So when you bitches (CK and ohfuk) manage that, lemme know Don't worry CK, I still lub j00

Or you can be like me and land a computer job with no certs.

I'm in your boat unreal....

But Certs are now a priority.

Do you guys think employers look more favorably upon certs or college degrees? This is just in computers, I'd like to add

Ahh This is something I really really badly need to know about. I'm getting A+ and Network+ Certified. This those would I be able to get a halfway decent job so I can live off myself until I have time to get other certifications???? I MUST KNOW THIS!!!

/looks at perg and laughs
please man, i will 0wn that test with a 5.9 or maybe a 10 or something....

you'd be lucky to get a decent job with just an A+. Hell, IMHO an A+ is barely worth the paper you get from it. AS for the net+, personally I don't feel that it has a whole lot of revelevance either. I bought a net+ book not too long ago (on sale- $20) and it took me about 3 days to know the material it covered. It starts to get into some good stuff, but it never really goes too deep into anything.

But as I said above, I would like to have both of them because I feel having any cert under your belt is better than having nothing. All I'm saying is that they are extremely easy, and don't really teach you anything difficult at all. The tools that you will aquire is nothing more than the basic knowledge that any IT worker is just expected to know.

sum

Go with A+ first, then build your way up, next go to CISCO, or some. You pick. If you want info on testing, books, etc email me [email protected] a long time ago in March I wrote a nice long post about that to someone. I got my lib of that [censored].

/me looks at Crypto
Dear god I hope you're kidding

i've almost finished CCNA, i'll lookin forward to CCNP, ORACLE, and some programming. Linux Administration is also somethin i wanna learn.

If anyone needs help with anythin related to ccna or anything else related with CISCO just say so.

oops i forgot to ask something.

i like PHP a lot, so do you guys know any courses or somethign to learn PHP ?

yes, go to http://scallion.sp00fed.net

He's got tons of tutorials, a bunch of articles, and he wrote some forums in PHP if you wanna ask questions. He ownz PHP

/me looks at perg
hell no im not kiddin. im probably gonna get like a 1500 or something

you bet bro, me too hell yeah me too.

PHP RULEZZZZ YA

so? , i have mass respect for oracle techs ... I'll tell you about it sometime.

also, A+ is worthless, but it is now standard.

ah why the hell is everybody saying A+ is worthless? I learned a lot from reading a A+ guide. Everything I know about hardware came from it (enough to build a computer) and I'm a mad DOS memory tweaker.

Just because many of you take the damn cert just to pass a test and therefor learn almost nothing from it doesn't mean you should diss it.

I learned a lot from the A+. But now that I know that material and I see where it will get me, I think the cert itself is meaningless. What is A+ gonna get you in this world? THat's all I'm saying. The fact of the matter is that every IT worker must know the material it covers. It is like the equivilent of say a cook knowing how to turn on the stove.

A+ is nothing more than the very basics that every IT worker should know. There is nothing complicated in it, nor is there anything that will earn you a whopping $200,000 a year.

sum