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Posted By: n3o I want to learn C++ - 09/23/03 04:15 AM
Hi,

I am new to programming, and want to start learning 'C++', as it is a good programming language to learn from a 'Hackers' point of view.

Would anybody be able to help, point me in the right direction as i am not very intellectually intelligent and would like to know if there is anyone or anything on the Internet that would help me learn 'C++' in easy steps.

Thanks for those who help!
Posted By: pergesu Re: I want to learn C++ - 09/23/03 07:45 AM
As far as I'm concerned, this is the best book for learning C++

C++ How to Program
Posted By: Ntd Re: I want to learn C++ - 09/24/03 11:43 AM
Cool choice!
Learning C++ is mad!!! Hey make sure you use visual C++ as you compiler as it is easy to use (Not at first, however it is better than those command line compillers.) If you don't have visual C++ then goto your book store and look for books that say visual C++ they should come with a version. Look for books rather then web-sites as books are better and there are some really good ones for $20 AU ($10 US). Well have fun.
Posted By: Digital Geek Re: I want to learn C++ - 09/25/03 04:04 AM
HERE you have the link to a good post with some C++ Tutorials.
Posted By: furi_kuri Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/06/03 05:28 AM
a good book you could buy is "sams teach yourself C++ in 10 minutes" (per lesson, not the entire language in 10 min) bye jesse liberty.
it's simple and just about every lesson has a good example programme to demonstrate the technique taught.
Posted By: Asteos Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/13/03 11:21 PM
..or you could always take a course at your nearest college.
Posted By: BackSlash Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/14/03 02:33 AM
taking a course at a college seems like an unneccessary use of money. its not that hard to teach it to yourself.
Posted By: loanbanker Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/14/03 11:22 AM
I know that at my nearest college its available however there is a list of pre-req's a year and a half long. I have decided to take the book route myself.

I am beginning with REALbasic. I figure once I have a strong grasp (maybe even a decent one) on this language I will move up to C++.

I figure my way I get there in a year. Maybe 6 mos. Probably a year.
Posted By: Asteos Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/16/03 01:27 AM
Good luck loanbanker.
Posted By: jonconley Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/16/03 02:03 AM
I took C++, VB, Java, HTML, COBOL @ College and HS levels.

It was a community college but it really was like, here is the book, do one project a week, due at end of the week.

The teachers would go over some concepts and test your code to see if it would crash and that it could do all the specs. There are plenty of websites out there where they have projects like that for people to learn with, and there are plenty of ppl here or on IRC networks who would take the time out to look over code and help debug your projects.
Posted By: pergesu Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/16/03 03:49 AM
College for programming blows. There's no reason to take some college classes to do it when you can pick it up on your own. I think it's probably better that way, because then you can go to outside resources (which are far more willing to help than professors, believe me) to get information and help. College classes would be beneficial only if you're not motivated enough to get it all done on your own, and need the extra motivation of deadlines (not to mention the money you spend) to get you through the material. But I'm going to college studying Software Engineering right now, and my professor told me in the second week that there's nothing they could teach me here that I wouldn't be able to pick up from a book in a week or two. Get some good books, find some good sites with knowledgeable people willing to help, and you'll learn to code. That's how most of us here did, I think.
Posted By: SilentRage Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/16/03 11:42 PM
"There's no reason to take some college classes to do it when you can pick it up on your own."

except what I call "paper-proof". I'm the prime example of somebody who's taught himself loads of stuff including programming languages, webdesign, and stuff. But that hasn't gotten me a job. I find myself going to school to take classes for stuff I already know.
Posted By: jonconley Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/17/03 01:29 AM
I would have to second that. It really applies to anything, but for most anyone here, the technology-related fields.

You can know more than 90% of the people that have gone to school, which I did goto school, so I know a handful of ppl here that fit that description. The thing is marketability.

If you want to learn coding, networking, etc. You can learn best on your own usually or with a small group of ppl (be it online or IRL). It is far cheaper that way. But if you want a good job w/ good pay, you will have to go through the motions to get a degree usually.

This isn't to demean college or degrees. Same thing with experience and certification. It is really best to have a solid foundation of all 3 (experience, education, and certification).

To make up for not going to college right away, I would suggest doing volunteer work in the related field for experience, and maybe getting a related certification if possible. There are tons of project sites to volunteer at, I recently found a few from volunteermatch.org

For my resume, I made sure that whenever I wasn't employed doing computer work, I volunteered somewhere so there isn't a void in my resume. Which happens alot with contract work. If your coding, join a sourceforge.net project and contribute. More info about why you should help an open source project is here .

Also, get your resume out there on job boards and be sure you take the time to make a good resume. Really sell yourself. If you aren't good at that, find someone to help you out or atleast have some other people look it over.
Posted By: Red Mage Re: I want to learn C++ - 10/26/03 03:52 AM
Go to a local library and do a search for the language you want to learn (C, C++, C#). There is usually at least 10-20 books on programming. At my library I found ~25 on C++ alone.
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