UGN Security
Posted By: Gremelin UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 06:10 PM
Well then... I recieved an email about some group called LOTD... Guess who one of the members is... Hi Defcon! lol...

Well, their claiming that I got hacked by them, anyone see anything? nope, neither did I...

Subject: LOTD thinks they owned you.

To whom it may concern,

Well you have no idea who I am but I know about some kids who think there a bunch of badass \"hackers\" lead by a guy who goes by the name Durandal. They call themselves LOTD or The Legion of the Damned. Think LOD with no skill and a bunch of zit faced skinny white kids who play role playing games. They talk alot of [censored] but don\'t have any idea what there saying.

Durandal claims he\'s a \"diehard enlightened stalinish\" but he also claims he\'s in the army stationed in Monterey California. He claimes he has \"Top secret 98G\" clearance. Ill let you read the rest.

heres our aim conversation.

I guess I should give some background. I became interested in the telephone system a few years back and started a site with some friends. It can be found at I live in North Central Washington so theres not exactly a big H/P community here. One day at lunch I was talking about beige boxing and a kid I didn\'t know started telling me how he used to box. Well we struck up sort of a friendship and I quickly discovered he talked alot of [censored]. You know, \"This one time I hacked a Gibson main frame!\" and \"The feds arrested me one time for carding some l33t 0-day warez off aol\".

So anyway we talked a little on AIM on and off. I could only take so much of this kid at a time. A few weeks back I received an instant message from \"mailed left fist\" asking me to join a secret elite orginization of hackers, phreakers, and military enthusiasts. The aim of this secret orginization is too apparrently change the world and bring about some sort of new order.

I played along, I mean these kids are pretty entertaining. Eventually I pass there little tests which really consist of me telling them what they want to hear. And I\'m \"in\" or whatever. So I ask what the first mission is, apparently its to \"Take down the UGN\" because one of you gues is a pedofile and just rather uncouth according to Durandal. He claims he has gained access to your server and taken member lists and such off of it.

I knows this guy is full of [censored] but I would love for him to just be obliterated along with the rest of his lackies. These little boys need a wake up call. Reading our AIM log will really show you what kind of a n00b these kids are. At one point Durandal says hes in the military barracks at some military intel base. But I did a stupid little Visual Route lookup on his IP and he\'s on some shitty dialup account in the San Francisco area.

Maybe you could take some sort of legal action? I mean he\'s threatening to \"hack\" your servers and claims they\'ve already been breached. I\'ve uploaded all documents I have that the \"group\" sent me. Ill post links to those and all AIM screen names I have from the grop at the end of this letter.

Ive been to your site a while back and liked what I saw. Thats part of the reason for this email. I would hate to see a bunch of lamers like them think they\'ve owned you. I would be happy to continue talking to them and see what other information I can get out of them. I think with a little more talking I could probably get names and addresses.

Please get back to me when you have a minute because I would love to hear your thoughts on this. I can be reached at [email protected] or on my AIM account under \"JimboReefer\".

If you decided to take action now rather than having me get there real names and addresses I would appreciate it if you didn\'t tell them I was the one who \"ratted them out\" I\'d rather watch them turn inward on each other :p


Screen names:
Durandal: Durandal LOTD
Durandals IP: | |
Deffy: PunkDeffy
Midknight: Midknight559
Posted By: SilentRage Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 06:12 PM
darnit Gizmo, that dude wanted anonymity. You have no respect. wink
Posted By: Gremelin Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 06:13 PM
Oh yeh, umm sorry? lol...
Posted By: SilentRage Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 06:40 PM
I think Deffy is innocent. Here's a conversation between me and Jimbo.

HACoder: dude, you got nailed
JimboReefer: anol
JimboReefer: Nailed eh?
HACoder: ?
JimboReefer: That sounds painful
HACoder: yeah, Gizmo decided to post your email on the board
HACoder: so why is Deffy on that list?
JimboReefer: Who's this again?
HACoder: I am one of the recipients of your email
HACoder: I'm an admin on the board, and host of the IRC
HACoder: SilentRage
JimboReefer: Ah
JimboReefer: Hows am I nailed?
JimboReefer: I thought I was being pleasantly helpful?
HACoder: cause Gizmo posted your email on the board.
HACoder: you were
HACoder: so anyway
HACoder: why is Deffy on that email?
JimboReefer: Some dude
JimboReefer: Lives in maine
JimboReefer: Ive got his IP if you want it
HACoder: but how is he related to the organization
JimboReefer: He's "2nd" in command
HACoder: do you have any proof?
JimboReefer: Just what he's told me
JimboReefer: What proof would you like?
HACoder: so you know Deffy?
JimboReefer: Ive talked him him yes
HACoder: so Deffy himself said he was second in command?
JimboReefer: Yes
JimboReefer: he also called himself "Mr Worf"
JimboReefer: when I compared the orginization the enterprise
JimboReefer: Why?
JimboReefer: Do you know this fellow?
HACoder: yes I do
JimboReefer: Seems like a good firend
JimboReefer: </sarcasm>
HACoder: I need some proof that he's 2nd in command
JimboReefer: Ill get it
JimboReefer: Im eating right now
HACoder: mk
JimboReefer: how about in 20 mins?
HACoder: sure, I've set my watch timer
JimboReefer: Neat
JimboReefer: Bah
HACoder: ?
JimboReefer: Now Im going to be flamed by these kids
HACoder: 18 min till proof time
JimboReefer: Why am I on a timer?
HACoder: yes, you said in 20 min, and I really want that proof
JimboReefer: I can see that
JimboReefer: lemme talk to def
JimboReefer: and Ill send you the log
HACoder: ok
JimboReefer: he's not on
JimboReefer: great fun
JimboReefer: when hes back Ill get your proof man
HACoder: what's his SN again?
JimboReefer: Your his friend yet you don't have his sn?
HACoder: well, you said he's not on
HACoder: but he is on
HACoder: so maybe we have different SN's
JimboReefer: PunkDeffy
HACoder: I'm talking to punkdeffy right now
HACoder: why do you think he's not on
JimboReefer: lemme recheck
JimboReefer: ah I typed it in wrong
JimboReefer: my mistake
JimboReefer: Ill get your proof
HACoder: so what is his SN
JimboReefer: one second Im talking to him man
HACoder: mk
JimboReefer: He's playing dumb now
JimboReefer: Thanks for tipping him off
JimboReefer: Jeezus
HACoder: he probably read the post
JimboReefer: Yeah thanks alot
HACoder: I'm not the one who posted the post
HACoder: Gizmo did
JimboReefer: Your the one who told him
HACoder: who says
JimboReefer: Man
JimboReefer: You make me laugh
HACoder: he reads the board dude
HACoder: all I wanted is proof
HACoder: still do
JimboReefer: Yeah thats hard to get now
HACoder: conversation logs isn't proof
JimboReefer: Boo hoo?
JimboReefer: Im not responsible for supplying you with proof
HACoder: then don't make accusations
HACoder: if you can't prove them
JimboReefer: I can accuse whom ever I wish
HACoder: then dont' expect anything to happen becuase of it until there's proof
JimboReefer: happen?
JimboReefer: Were you planning on spanking him or something?
HACoder: yeah, like him getting prosecuted or whatever it is you said in the email
JimboReefer: heh
JimboReefer: grin
HACoder: ok, I think that's enough for this conversation.
Posted By: Gremelin Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 07:13 PM
JimboReefer: Thank you
JimboReefer: Silent Rage is all pussy now
JimboReefer: err
JimboReefer: pissy
Gizmo Laptop: freudian slip 'eh?
JimboReefer: Indeed
Posted By: hKzKnight Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 08:37 PM
It's kinda funny. I've spoken to Deffy a few times on AIM, those rare times I go on my hkz sn. He isn't a fan of ours but I don't think he would claim himself 2nd in command... Wait and Worf never was... THAT SOB!!!!!!!! AHHH. Anyway. What happened to the days of LOD (Legion of Doom). Those hackers are to be on a shrine or eh... Well i guess. Giz is a man who likes to keep things a secret in public (yup like an oxymoron). Ok sorry bored, bbl.
Posted By: dashocker Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 09:44 PM
Since when does Deffy not like us? I mean, he hates me, but who doesen't? Surely no one who has ever talked to him believes he is part of this shenannigan.
Posted By: Gremelin Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 11:29 PM
I donno I'm gettin a kick out of the fact that their planning on demanding that I hand over the domain lol...
Posted By: SilentRage Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/26/03 11:31 PM
Deffy doesn't hate UGN guys... He just isn't into the computer scene like he was.
Posted By: hKzKnight Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/27/03 01:58 AM
I highly doubt he is part of that [censored]. Just to clear things up if that was misunderstood, I didn't mean he didn't like us, "not a fan of ours", it's as in the structer of UGN, not the people. Yet still he is a busy guy and has a pretty busy life, so I say whomever this d00d is might know deffy true infact me might know this person with another handle. Like a pot handle wait hmm. LOTD, Lord of the dance? ph33r em! Well I don't know of a LOTD, LOTD is so common with clans in games... Lords of the dick? Sry I'm bored, my plans got [censored] and I keep editing this post. The guy just shrank to me when I see his fancy l337 hotmail.
Posted By: jonconley Re: UGN's Lame Group of the Month: April - 04/27/03 05:43 PM
Well I am gonna close this before it starts a war type thing. UGN already had a few of those and they aren't pretty. I know admin/mods will reopen and post their stuff, but the ppl that do not know enough about UGN or Deffy, have no business is saying what they "think". I think you all know the past experiences I am referring to.
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