How can noone here be using UNIX?
Well, in some way we kinda are. Linux IS a UNIX-compatible implementation, just like Free,
Net, and Open BSD are as well. I'm sure you knew that right?
Linux has become commercialized
True. But so has Windows, but you still use it right?
It sucks [censored] nowadays because everyone's getting crappy distros like Mandrake and RH.RH i
s always full of security holes
Why are they crappy?? Please elaborate. And as far as Red-Hat being buggy, that's not enti
rely true. It's really the packages or third party software that's included with RH or an
y distro for that matter, that make it so buggy
Mandrake...PAAH! It's a n00b kit that replaces windoze.
This statement really errks me. Why do so many people think that Mandrake is specifically
made for beginners??? Just because it has an easy to use graphical install?? Slackware is
just as esay to install as Mandrake. Why not bash Slackware??? I'd much rather prefer to h
ave an easier install than spend counteless hours trying to install something like Gentoo.
That way I have more time to get rid of things I don't need and secure the box up.
People are like "now i'm 31337 because i use LINUX"
What people??? I don't think I'm "31337" because I use Mandrake. Nor will I ever be "31337
". Nor do I care.
there's no diff because they still use the GUI for everything
Debian and Slack are semi-ok distros.
Semi-ok?? What's the matter too hard for you to install??
I think those are the 2 top d
istros in the Linux community, as far as reliability and stability go. Just my $0.02.
The only way Linux will help anyone become a better "hacker" is if they ditch X86 and get
to know the command line and how the tools there work
Man, I can do the same things from X-windows as in the command line. What difference does
it make to use the CLI or X?? Although I do agree with you that learning the command line is essential.
people go out and cough up a hundred or so dollars for mandrake
I only spent 30$. I think it was worth it. Better than speding a couple hundred for Windows, eh?
X Windows in almost any form (Gnome, KDE, blackbox, etc.) all present a security hazard be
cause of their ability to shoot back an XTerm that cannot be detected by an IDS
Wrong. You can have Snort alert you if there are incoming connections on an X server via s
nort rules. Although iptables isn't an IDS, it can stop people from connecting your X serv
er as well. And configuring your hosts.deny file to not allow outside connections will do
the trick as well. One more thing, Mandrake by default doesn't allow X connections unless
you specify which IP's you want to allow to connect.
UNIX, however, has been around decades, and while it still has bugs, it has a lot less than barely 10 year old Linux
I agree with you there. But that shouldn't stop you or anyone from using Linux. Heck, there's even more to fix and play around with. Can't get any better than that.
Why, oh why do people have to get Linux!
Because we can.
Errr...One of several reasons not that many people use it is because it's just not as well
known as Linux is.The UNIX distros I can think of that are widley available are Plan-9 from bell-labs, Digital UNIX from compaq, and Solaris. And those are also just UNIX clones, from what I understand. Oh yeah, there's also AIX$$$$$, HP-UX$$$$, and IRIX$$$$$$. As you can see from those money signs, they cost quite a bit of money as well. So there you have it.
Also, I think it's kinda funny that you expect people on this board to use UNIX when you say most of them are lamers and you yourself have noticed that there isn't as much "intelligent fervor" as there used to be.