alright on this computer switching the nameserver to 192.168.8.1 worked but why would that make a difference as to whether or not i could ping the router? i mean i'll try changing that on the old machine but i don't see how it would change the fact that the router is ignoring me (at least i assume thats what is happening.) also, i've heard of this card having some issues with full duplex/half duplex...could that cause a severe problem like this?