::claps:: valid, valid...

See, now people like psy, who have been here since the beginning I totally value, theive been with UGN Security forever. hell I've been with UGN Security forever, since it started, the original magenta and green design (trust me, you could tell beard was a mexican)... Then the transition to Java applets on the whole site, then finally working its way to present.

Everything changes, in fact I'm working on getting a rough sketch down for the new UGN Security, thats why the current isn't all back up because its all going to be replaced (except the board, don't worry) anyway.
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