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#17379 - 02/12/03 06:33 PM How to start coding in C++?
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1. How to start? (book, site, dude...?)
2. How u started?
3. Should i go for C++ or some other C?
4. Any book?
5. Site...
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#17380 - 02/12/03 06:53 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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1. go snag a dictionary from english to whatever the fuck your home language is.
2. snag a few books from Barnes and Noble, Visual Quickstart Guides are good for beginners.
3. read the book, if you're in unix code your shit, if you're in windows you need to get a c compiler
4. c#
5. there are many books.
6. start with a book...
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#17381 - 02/12/03 07:04 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/

That's where I started. I downloaded the LCC compiler. Used the C tutorial some. Although mostly I go to http://msdn.microsoft.com to look up documentation.

You should go with C in my opinion. However if you have no previous programming experience, and you can't teach yourself, then this reply doesn't help you a bit.
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#17382 - 02/12/03 07:08 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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Barnes And Noble - writers or?
Any label you would recommend specially for a noob that want to know C Hardcore?

Why C# and not C++, whats the benefits?
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#17383 - 02/12/03 07:11 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32/

That's where I started. I downloaded the LCC compiler. Used the C tutorial some. Although mostly I go to http://msdn.microsoft.com to look up documentation.

You should go with C in my opinion. However if you have no previous programming experience, and you can't teach yourself, then this reply doesn't help you a bit.
I have some expiriance whit Fortran .77, TurboPascal and some Basics of Java. Most things bout computers i learned myself. If u mean to see the commands, and link em yourself (find out for what they are) then we don't have a prob

And why C? Whats its benefits?
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#17384 - 02/12/03 07:12 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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Barnes and Noble is a book store in the USA, they have an online store http://www.barnesandnoble.com if I recall.

C# is the newest lol, always good to keep new imo.
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#17385 - 02/12/03 07:26 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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ok, I like how this topic is going. no damn long lines of 0's and 1's.

sweet ass, if hardcore is what you're looking for. C is your man. LCC is great cause it DOES have a commandline compiler and a linker. However, it ALSO has a GUI which uses the compiler and linker for you at your convenience.

Here's the differences:

C: this is as low level as a high level language gets. This language is all about pointers and structures.

C++: this is fairly high level. You can still have C code in your programs and have pointers and all that. However this language is all about objects and classes. That makes coding a heck of a lot easier and faster.

C#: This is some microsoft piece of shit variation of the C language. I don't know much about it and I don't want to learn. The reason I say piece of shit is cause I don't like high overhead. I prefer to keep things lean and mean.
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#17386 - 02/12/03 07:30 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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Done - C++. Microsoft have too much holes (in amny ways) . I agree whit you 'bout C#. Now what books would u reccomend me, or what way to learn it would you recommend me?
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#17387 - 02/12/03 07:35 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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I told you how I learned it but I could embellish a bit. The way I learn is using reference materials and example code. I don't have the patience for books and tutorials cause I'm lazy. I gotta have a reason to do stuff. So I pick a project I'd like to do - something worth my time. Then I find some example code out there - preferably something simple and easy to read. Then I find myself a reference manual so that I can lookup whatever piece of information I need.

Here's a good source to find example code:
http://www.planetsourcecode.com

Here's a good reference source:
http://msdn.microsoft.com

Here's what I use if all else fails me:
http://www.google.com
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#17388 - 02/13/03 03:44 AM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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Here's a good source to find example code:
http://www.planetsourcecode.com
I knew thisone, tho it doesn't have a code i would want. Do u know a place where i could find a Space Trading 'n' Fighting (+bots) MMORPG Source Code. Like Diaspora/exodus (www.netexdous.co.uk)/xiaspora (nigh.no-ip.net:100)?

And do you know where i could get a Worm/Virus Source Code. I am interested in Slammer

P.S. Not some lethal Viruses (like earesing HDD), just that puts defined screen on you PC whit some message And you can't remove it by just restarting the PC.
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#17389 - 02/13/03 05:00 AM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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lol if thats all you're looking for learn about registry entries in your programs and then learn about full screen options and text scrolling, just for that it doens't sound all that difficult.
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#17390 - 02/13/03 09:40 AM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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slammer is not a virus. slammer is a worm. Any decent programmer can make a worm. It takes REAL skill to make virus's. I'm sure there's tutorials out there that teach the concepts behind making virus's.

As for childishness that involves pranking people, go search for information yourself. I want this forum to have at least a LITTLE dignity.

As for games, again, you're on your own. google with search strings like "engine" and "MMORPG".
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#17391 - 02/13/03 04:22 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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slammer is not a virus. slammer is a worm. Any decent programmer can make a worm. It takes REAL skill to make virus's. I'm sure there's tutorials out there that teach the concepts behind making virus's.
its "It takes REAL skill to make virus'" its not proper to have "'s" after an "s" ...

Rage, at least he posted in the right forum :/.
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#17392 - 02/13/03 04:37 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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sr's way of saying it sounds a lot better. "it takes real skill to make virus" sounds like a mexican who is learning english. possibly, "it takes real skill to make A virus"
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#17393 - 02/13/03 06:15 PM Re: How to start coding in C++?
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Quote:
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slammer is not a virus. slammer is a worm.
I said Worm/Virus :p
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