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#2018 - 09/13/03 11:44 PM umm i dont know
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Hey does any one know if a linux os would work on a mac?
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#2019 - 09/14/03 12:09 AM Re: umm i dont know
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Yes, there's a distro called Yellow Dog which is very popular on the Mac. A lot of other distros have PPC versions. Of course I'm not sure why you'd want to, considering that OS X is based on BSD... but yeah, you can run linux on a Mac.

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#2020 - 09/14/03 01:04 AM Re: umm i dont know
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Here is a list that I could find, if you want more information on any distribution, try DistroWatch or the websites listed below.

Debian http://www.debian.org
Gentoo http://www.gentoo.com
LinuxPPC http://www.linuxppc.com (No longer maintained)
Mandrake http://www.mandrakesoft.com
MkLinux http://www.mklinux.org
NetBSD http://www.netbsd.org
SharkLinux http://www.sharklinux.com
SuSE http://www.SuSE.com
Yellow Dog http://www.yellowdoglinux.com

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#2021 - 09/14/03 02:13 AM Re: umm i dont know
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Ya OS X is based on BSD (i think)
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#2022 - 09/14/03 06:03 AM Re: umm i dont know
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Yes os X is on BSD, it isn't based on it, it's basically an xwindow running on BSD. You can even enable root and run services on it easily lol...
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#2023 - 09/14/03 11:54 AM Re: umm i dont know
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ya cool thanx for the info guys, the only reason i want to do this is because my family is gonna get a G5 the newest mac and fastest computer on the planet, the only problem is i hella wanna play counter strike on it, but i dont think cs works on osx so iam gonna put a partition on it and have linux, so i can play cs.

Thanks
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#2024 - 09/14/03 06:04 PM Re: umm i dont know
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No Giz, it's not an xwindow client running on BSD. The kernel is Darwin, which is based on BSD. Check it out

http://developer.apple.com/darwin/
http://www.opendarwin.org

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#2025 - 09/14/03 07:23 PM Re: umm i dont know
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I question whether ppc linux would run on the G5. I mean, its a 64bit processor and would need a distro designed specifically for the processor architecture like other 64bit distros, alpha and sparc. Well actually I don't question it, I know it won't. So if your getting a G5 your going to have to wait for the developers to write a ppc64 kernel.

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#2026 - 09/14/03 07:36 PM Re: umm i dont know
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Here is a good related /. thread. I say thread, b/c as usual, you will find alot better info in the thread than the actual "article". Check it out Here I know you would be able to compile various distros for it, I believe Gentoo are also soon releasing their 2CD set in a G5 version.

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#2027 - 09/14/03 10:04 PM Re: umm i dont know
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can't suse run on a 64-bit processor? and i thought you could only host CS servers on linux, not play.//
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#2028 - 09/14/03 10:38 PM Re: umm i dont know
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Pretty sure it will play, but only if you go with WineX. Which I am sure is real fun to install and config, but if ya use linux, you are probably used to that shit.

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#2029 - 09/15/03 01:18 AM Re: umm i dont know
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SuSE has alpha and sparc versions which are 64 bit. Most big name distros have 64 bit processor versions. Some have PPC versions which is the mac processor architecture. The G5 has a different architecture since its is 64 bit not 32 like the previous microprocessor. With new processors means new instruction sets, register and bus sizes, and software that has to be developed to support it. anyways the G5 is in a land of its own as far as everything goes its a completely new system. and it won't even be that 'great' until people start to re-write or ever write software that is designed to utilize the full potential of the system.

and coleman, to "play counterstrike " isnt a very good reason to run linux. It's not a gamers operating systems. You have to know a LOT about linux to get 3D support working and games running on it.

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#2030 - 09/15/03 08:29 AM Re: umm i dont know
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"and it won't even be that 'great' until people start to re-write or ever write software that is designed to utilize the full potential of the system."
ever hear of final cut pro, with 8 gigs of ram final cut pro will run way faster and have way better preformance so it will is great cuz final cut pro 4 utilizes the comps full abitlites ( for editing)
so basicly umm i hella dissagree with u
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#2031 - 09/15/03 09:41 AM Re: umm i dont know
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I think sin is referring to in the long run, the big picture. I mean, sure you have specialized high end programs like final cut pro, but aside from that there isn't a whole hell of a lot that will take full advantage of it right now.

It is definitely on the high-end of the curve, and alot of people have been waiting for it and will benefit from it for serving "specialized" services that it will do very well at. But I would agree, for the majority of users, 64bit simply does not have mainstream support. Regardless if you are talking Mac or PC.

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#2032 - 09/15/03 10:04 AM Re: umm i dont know
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It was written for a 32-bit processor. Its not optimized and does not take advantage of the 64-bit architecture. Will it be faster than the G4? of coarse it will, its a faster processor. Will it utilize the processors full potential? No. That is the point I was trying to get across.
Anyways, here's some news articles to back up what I said:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/31600.html
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4009

Look you can disagree all you want. Your opinion means nothing to me in this conversation, you obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Sorry for taking the conversation over your head. Yes, you are right it will be "way faster".

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