Oh my god dose it ever go away.... ha ha ha ha
I for one thought Optix was awsome. When I was starting a site with little or no members and he was banning members with any knowledge here by the dozzen they all joined RRFN. ha ha ha. Then he used to joke with me.
"Don't let your members talk bad about me." So silly.
I do totaly respect IceDog. He had on many ocasions shown me his knowledge of Linux seemed to have no end. Though he probably looked down on me I hold a good deal of respect for him. Optix however never showed me any knowledge on any topic. I am not being rude. Not rushing to defend Gizmo or anyone else. I search through the board one day when the old UBB was up for posts from optix.
99% were closed topics, I can ban you. phear me. blah blah blah.
I was never a fan.
Blackbeard... Well He was hardly around. But who could not respect a man who put such a site together. the K-base, the news, the board, the store. I was one of the first to contact Beard when the site was for sale. But I doubt I could have kept up with all he had created. That and I could not afford it.
I as any other person dose judge people. You came in here and judged many as newbie. So far all I have seen to judge you on is these posts which seem to want to cling on to the past. Optix is gone. IceDog is gone. Beard has been arond once or twice.
I miss beard and icedog. That is that. if those 3 people being gone makes you want to put everyone else here down... well get over it. you are upset over something that happened over a year ago. You were not around. The site has changed some. You can either become part of it and make changes as a member or bitch about it to people who chose not to come here any more.
Since you are an older member I have no doubt you have plenty to share and would love to see you contribute and help some out here. But if you chose not to you have to go with what you know right?UGN Security
has and is about seaking knowledge. plain and simple. We do have newbies. But newbies do learn and they help other newbies. The comunity grows, the next hacker movie comes out and all hacker BBS's are flooded again with NEO and John Travolta wanabes.
We have to many time guide them off the script kiddie path and they start learning a language or just do not come back. Flames are not seen as often as they once were(I think that is good and bad). Face it the world of hacking has changed over the last 5 years. Laws are geared to make it difficult for sites teching hacking. Company greed has changed the face of the net.
A certain amount of change in UGN Security
is to be expected. If you want to stay here at UGN Security
I say cool. If you want to hang on to the past I think you will be very upset. It seems LL is more a legit site. More geared toward the open source side of the house than hacking or all around coding.UGN Security
is a great place to go to get answers or pass on knowledge. Basicaly you get from here what you put in. If the first time you come here you post
"heh, can you help me hack my girlfriends hotmail account."
You get flamed. But if you show you can offer help and you are a decent member part of the family so to speak you get respect. BTW tell icedog I said hey. Like I said he probably dosen't look at me as an equal, but I never had any problem with him. I do not realy have a problem with Optix either. He helped UGN Security
get started. Gizmo and he did not see eye to eye. Gizmo now owns UGN Security
. End of story.