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#25753 - 10/29/02 06:11 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
BackSlash Offline
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 599
Loc: TN
paint balls, snipers, land mines, all cost to much, that would cost the country just as much as letting them in. i would suggest a wall, with motion sensor machine guns. might cost a bit to install, but no paying guards a weakly salary. just someone to reload the guns. we would also benefit from the flock of wildlife our guns shot. we would have a constant supply of whateva type of animal romes the texas border. heh
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#25754 - 10/29/02 10:48 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 533
Loc: San Andreas
Lmao, great idea BackSlash...

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#25755 - 10/30/02 12:48 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
black^Pimp Offline
UGN GFX Whore

Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Underground
...huh damaris !!

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now if you wanted to make a valid argument you could point out the fact that the united states practically stole half of mexico a couple hundred years ago, texas up to like canida or some shit. we won a war, stole the land, and threw mexico a couple bucks to make it look ok. BUT YOUR TO FUCKING STUPID TO KNOW THAT.
now that's a fuckin good reasons but as ohfuk said... nah better don't say it twice, i just hope she read that well.

P.S. fleshy nice post.

bp
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#25756 - 10/30/02 01:20 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 55
Loc: New York City
backslash u are cruel aight and look u just have no sense and even bp is smarter than u! and u noe wat obviously backslash could turn into a future sniper bcuz i doubt anyone in DC would even consider ur suggestion!

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#25757 - 10/30/02 01:41 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 55
Loc: New York City
ok since y'all want arguments here u go adn this affects all latinos and immigrants even if u are not illegal to see that we help America:
1. The most important baseball players have a jersey with the last names of, Mercado, Sosa, reyes, Bocachica, Rivera, Rodriguea, Nunez.
2. Latin music is also big ex. Ricky Martin, J.Lo, Christina Aguilera, Gloria Estefan, Enirque Iglesias. and other ppl.
3. Everywhere u go u hear Spanish. Can't avoid it therefore can't hate it.
4. In July 1, 2059 the USA will be strictly all minorities and many of them will be illegal (have u ever thought that u can falll in love with an illegal?).
5.George W. Bush is the first prez dat speaks Spanish.
6. There are 35.0 million immigrants Note not illlgal.Reality is illlega immigrants get out of their country bcuz there are no jobs low education levels, and political conflicts.
7. in USA TODAY is says quote "The USA would not be succesful without the help of immigrants."
8. Immigrants are 34% of the employed ppl in USA.
9. Carlos Fuentes said that many immigrants are falsely accused of takin away americans jobs of ruining the economy and the nation but thats all bullshit. But these illegal immigrants keep on coming here because no one wants to do the job they perform and without them de whole structure of emplyment of the USA will be drastically runied.
10.In 1997 the National Academy of Sciences said immigrants add 10 billion
11. NOTe "Ni barreras mas altas ni nuevas leyes ni un nuevo presupuesto para la guardia fronteriza ni el ejercito ni acuerdos migratorios, NADA Se trata de algo mucho mas fuerte." EVery day thousands of immigrants cross the Mexican border and nothing will ever stop this huge wave og immigrants. Not the highest alls or any new laws or new guards for the border or soldiers or whatever agreement of migration NTHING its about something way bigger that drives us to the USA and nothing will stop this flow.

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#25758 - 10/30/02 01:45 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 55
Loc: New York City
oh yea jonconely i am an ANCHOR BABY and many ppl are so SHUT UP and i am a citizen so there ain't nothin wrong with what i am doing and yea we live in poor conditions but its way better than in South America, at least here we have police dat actually HELP.

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#25759 - 10/30/02 01:51 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Underground
well DaMaRiS i'm not gonna go dissin you again this time coz i'm happy tonight for some reasons but i agree with you only in one point and that is:

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2. Latin music is also big ex. Ricky Martin, J.Lo, Christina Aguilera, Gloria Estefan, Enirque Iglesias. and other ppl.
lol

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#25760 - 10/30/02 01:58 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 955
Loc: Merrill, IA, USA
1] Baseball sucks, but aside from that you are listing rare exceptions and they are legal anyways.
2] I am confused. Was there a good point to this one?
3] I hear rap everywhere I go. I still hate it
4] What is the significance of July 1st? Just curious
5] Bush is the first president that needed the minority vote that bad. Remember, he had to run for office in Texas back in the day
6] OK. A stat about legal's. Where si the illegal stat here that you are claiming?
7] Excellent. You quoted a source, helps your argument when you do that. However, it would appear that is dealing with legals. We are referring to illegals.
8] Legal or Illegal? And what is the pro/con here?
9] I will check out Carlos Fuentes. Real quick question, that isn't your dad, right? Also doesn't this negate your #6 where supposedly all illegals take a peek, don't like it, and leave.
10] Another fact. Good. But try to show a pro/con to this. I have already shown cons.
11] Okay...

I am impressed. Most of your arguments go from a possible fact to unrelated assumptions or horrible speculation, but it is great to see that you are using your head a little and make it a much more intelligent debate than being all "gansta".

I will check out Carlos. I want you to look at some of your points. See your fact and the logical assumption you make afterwards. It seems you sometimes jump from a fact to a huge assumption, so look at those and ask yourself if you see where they are related. Don't bother posting what you see, just make sure you can link your facts and your assumptions together here.

If so you have a much better arguments. Sometimes it seems like you are saying this.

"US has immigrants. So that means they must need them. And if they don't need them, too bad, it is inevitable. Things that are inevitable cannot be ahted and will not change."

There is some flawed logic there.

Thank you for your attempt and success (in places) of some good points. I kind of went through them quick, maybe ill come back a lil later.

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#25761 - 10/30/02 02:47 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 536
Loc: CO
oh jonconley.. thank you so much for such an intelligent post! i won't even reply to damaris because i don't think anyone could say what you said any better. i agree with you completely.
ahh.. but i must thank damaris for making me laugh.. i really haven't laughed that hard in awhile.. i needed it. thanks!

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#25762 - 10/30/02 04:37 PM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 03/07/02
Posts: 201
Loc: inside
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Originally posted by DaMaRiS:
5.George W. Bush is the first prez dat speaks Spanish.
She's completely full of shit, Dubya can barely speak English, there's no way that monkey of a man could comprehend another language.
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#25763 - 10/31/02 12:27 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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UGN GFX Whore

Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Underground
you call George W.Bush [b]"Monkey of a man" Imperial ?... you're really fucking stupid.

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#25764 - 10/31/02 12:30 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
jonconley Offline
UGN Super Poster

Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 955
Loc: Merrill, IA, USA
yeah, no monkey I know has the ability to goto war with other countries to feed their ego and greed.

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#25765 - 10/31/02 08:24 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 536
Loc: CO
hey.. in all fairness.. i think george seems like a really nice guy. i'm sure he's nice.. if you're not an Iraqi that is oh well.. i think he's the first president that got the "i can do whatever the fuck i want" bill passed. good job for him! i'm all for world domination.. and he seems to be going for it. so i love him

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#25766 - 10/31/02 08:26 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
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Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 955
Loc: Merrill, IA, USA
I predict his dad will die during lil Bush's 3rd year in office (DISCLAIMER: not by my hands and I won't have anything to do with this. This is not a threat on his fathers life). Remember I said this. I realized this today while bathing. I will feel some sorrow for him, but I am sure he will milk it for what it is worth and blame it on some foreign country.

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#25767 - 10/31/02 08:27 AM Re: ahhh.. the great immigration debate continues..
fleshwound Offline
Member

Registered: 03/10/02
Posts: 536
Loc: CO
ahhh! you're gonna kill george senior aren't you???!! hehehe.. hey.. saddam tried to kill him.. and now hes going to get his shit rocked.. so. if you try.. make sure you at least succeed.. cuz you will be fucked with.

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