heheh they are great i do edmit that lol

Here is a model that is coming out by nomad.
the Creative Labs 20gb Zen Portable Media Center
Looks like its going for 500, but its not out yet. Heres your standard Hd giz.

Technical data

* Video Playback Format: Windows Media Video (WMV) 7, 8 and 9, (Professional, Lossless, Standard), MPEG and DVR-MS
* Audio Playback Support: Windows Media Audio (WMA), MP3, WAV
* Photo Format Support: JPEG, PhotoStory
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio: Up to 90dB
* Warranty: 1 Year
* Interface: USB 2.0 (backward compatible with USB 1.1)
* Battery Life: Up to 22 hours continuous audio playtime or up to 7 hours of continuous video playtime
* Capacity: 20 GB
* Display : 3.8-inch, 320 x 240 pixel resolution, blue-EL backlit LCD
* Weight: 0.93 ounces with battery
* Dimensions: 144 millimeters by 80.7 millimeters by 27millimeters
* Box Contents: Creative Zen Portable Media Center, Power Adapter, Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery, Protective Carrying Case, Pair of Earphones, USB 2.0 cable, Video & Line Out cable , Quick Start guide, Installation CD

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B...ech-data&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

:pets: my precious... Fun thing is, it's coming out at the same price as the Nomad Jukebox... Which is, I must say, bad-ass...

I have to agree with this guy.If you walk down the street with one of those things, you'd probably be killed for it............. and maybe your pants.

sorry about that last message, it was supposed to go on a different page

ill just post a link for this one. Archos' AV 400 Nine-Ounce PVR. around $550 for 20gig.
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