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#5046 - 09/22/02 02:01 AM why drugs are bad
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when im high and smoking alot i lose interest in whats really important, pety theft and vandalism of my school and all businesses surounding my house within a 5 mile radius. today i rode around on my bike wearing all black with a backpack containing a few suplies. i stole a no parking sign, an ass load of caution tape and some danger toape too, 2 full grass paint cans for marking the field for baseball games and shit(will use later), and some other pointless shit. i had to make 2 trips cause i couldnt fit it all in one. i also tryed trashing a phone company so i could become a real phreaker just for kicks but they had a huge ass compressor hooked up to the dumpster so i just played with the buttons and the apparent 460 volts of electricity. fun stuff. i knocked down 2 of those damn signs that remind people to clean up their dogs shit cause that just stupid. since ive been sober ive also made some napalm(yes i know, about as simple as it gets) and found a way to get on the roof of safeway, sure that will be fun on hallowween, its raining pumkins! so yes this is why drugs are bad and pointless random shit is good

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#5047 - 09/22/02 02:58 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Simply shocking...Folks, we are witnessing the decline of the youth of America.

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#5048 - 09/22/02 09:58 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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What good does this do you? What's the point in going around vandalizing or stealing other people's stuff

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#5049 - 09/22/02 12:39 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Last night I stole a $100 drill set from someone's van, along with a gas mask and a claculator and a fire extinguisher which I set off in the front seat of the van, and inside a parked car's muffler. It was about that time I saw headlights comming so I booked my shit and left the fire extinguisher behind. I kicked off another car's dual-exhaust muffler and I switched someone's licence plate with a much shittier car's plates. I stole a bucket of white paint and dumped it on a parked car in the same parking lot as all of the above was happening in. I ripped 3 auto-emblems off a big-ass ford pick-up with a flat-head screwdriver (the same screw driver I used to switch the plates with) and busted the shit out of the outside of a school bus from a private school down the street from my fren'z house.

I've been sober for two whole weeks.
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#5050 - 09/22/02 02:56 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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lol i don't see how this says why drugs are good or bad. i don't want to do any drugs because i 1) don't want to die and 2) i like to think straight. I don't want to be addicted, i like control over myself. I also like to remember having fun. maybe i am just brainwashed into think drugs are bad, mmkay.

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#5051 - 09/22/02 03:12 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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NO CASH...my anti drug
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#5052 - 09/22/02 04:28 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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God damn teenagers nowadays... When me and Gizmo were kids we would hit the peace pipe then lay back and realize new things(Telco Exploits) and think different ways(What if the Jews are the chosen people? Nah...).

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#5053 - 09/22/02 06:10 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i got a gas mask too astros. worked on a construction site last summer, got a bunch of cool shit from that place

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#5054 - 09/22/02 06:25 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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haha tru....no cash...my antidrug
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#5055 - 09/22/02 08:27 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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True words of wisdom here people... "I don't like the drugs, the drugs like me." -Manson
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#5056 - 09/22/02 08:52 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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weed isnt even that bad i mean at least it gets you high theres cigerettes out there that they let stay legal and all those do is turn your lungs a pretty shade of black, i say LEGALIZE WEED
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#5057 - 09/23/02 01:02 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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There will be people who will abuse anything, whether it is legal or not. I can't remember which nation it is, but all drugs are legal there, yet they have a lower drug use rate then the United States. One of the reasons that Pot and other drugs are illegal is because of liquor companies such as Budweiser, they have a very large anti-drug campaign... Why? Because most people would rather smoke five puff of Weed and get a better intoxication/high, without the risk of liver damage, the bloated feelings, the nausea, or the hang over the next day caused by Alcohol. And if drugs were legalized, most likely companies would sprout up and start producing them, in pure, clean, and safe forms, so drug dealers and the chance of them tainting your shit will be no more. Perhaps once the Average age of congressmen becomes lower then 55, maybe they'll understand something besides the Anti-Hippie Yuppie point of view, then we will be saving billions of dollars by not having a drug war that way we will even more funds to give to Israel and help them bullie Arabs and get themselves blown up...

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#5058 - 09/23/02 03:10 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Quote:
Originally posted by pergesu:
What good does this do you? What's the point in going around vandalizing or stealing other people's stuff
it gives him something to brag about on the board?
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#5059 - 09/23/02 03:18 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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curse, even though thats agenst my topic compleatly, i agree with. i also dont really think weed is bad and have smoked quite a bit in the past and probably will smoke quite a bit in the future. i can sortof back up what you say about the alcohol companies with no hard core evidence. i think i read somewhere that weed was made illigal after prohibition so people would stop smoking and start drinking again. i cant baqck that up though, dont know where i heard it. of corse weed back then was grass, unlike the improved, more potent version of today.

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#5060 - 09/23/02 09:38 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Originally posted by CyberNerd:
weed isnt even that bad i mean at least it gets you high theres cigerettes out there that they let stay legal and all those do is turn your lungs a pretty shade of black, i say LEGALIZE WEED
Why don't you research the long-term physical and psychological effects of marijuana. If you don't already know about them, maybe you shouldn't hold such a strong opinion.
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#5061 - 09/23/02 09:39 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Oh and cigarettes aren't any better. I wish I could quit.
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#5062 - 09/24/02 01:43 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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genesis 1:12 i have given you all seed bearing plants and herbs to use , doesnt that say something???
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#5063 - 09/24/02 02:03 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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/me pulls out Bible
Genesis 1:28 "Be fruitful and multiply" means reproduce, obviously, but it doesn't neccessarily mean go out and fuck everyone and have millions of bastard babies. He was probably talking about food in that statement. I don't think the creator of the universe promotes drug use. (I could be wrong though) although I'm almost 100% sure I'm not. God also says the body is your temple, do not mistreat or harm it. Drugs are bad for the body.
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#5064 - 09/24/02 05:02 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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note- the bible can be used to support or invalidate ANY issue. please dont use it for a resource, it can be interprited thousands of ways.

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#5065 - 09/24/02 06:18 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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the long term use of any drug will have negative effects...
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#5066 - 09/24/02 07:19 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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oohhh cmon guys.weed aint all bad.harder drugs is wat uve gotta worry bout
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#5067 - 09/24/02 07:29 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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also weed can b used 4 other things xcept smokin.1 acre of hemp produces 4 tymes as much paper as 1 acre of trees
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#5068 - 09/24/02 08:47 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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would that paper be smokable????? cause that would be great rolling paper. when they legalize weed in this damn country(2004 in Navada!.... hopefully...then other states will follow....hopefully) it will be for sale every 7-11 in existance and you could roll weed with your weed paper...it would be good.

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#5069 - 09/25/02 04:34 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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yea it wood, i cant wait
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#5070 - 10/27/02 04:51 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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/me sits back and thinks fondly of the good all days when all she did was get high and drunk all damn day.

dammit! now i have to listen to all my weed smokin' songs!

"roll it up, light it up, smoke it up"
"hits from the bong"
"who's got the herb"
"hydroponic"
"i don't like the drugs"
"dope show"
"pass the dutchie"

ahh.. those are some of my old favs to get high too

fleshy
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#5071 - 10/27/02 07:15 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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unreal is very funny but i woul never use drugs. When God says to multiply he says dat to Adam and Eve bcuz they were da 1st humans but it doesn't really apply today. It says have children but it does not say go fuck every single person u see today bczu i u do then u'll die! Abstinence RULES! oh and drugs kill u so obviously its bad and the Bible does comdem it it also condems getting drunk. The biblie says u have to drink reasonably but not enough to get u drunk

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#5072 - 10/27/02 07:48 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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When me and my friends are high we just eat munchies and play video games!!!

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#5073 - 10/27/02 09:19 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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drugs suck, last summer, man.. drugs in the morning before summer school everyday, but i said, "i have to stop" so ive been sober since the last day of summer school. yay.
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#5074 - 10/27/02 09:24 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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im practically naturally high anyways, i never carry a complete thought anymore. I just hate thinking.

tobacco is far worse than weed in my opinion and weed is actually entertaining.

Personally I like other drugs like speed more altho its alot more harmfull, i just liek the rush of energy i get from it, feels great.
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#5075 - 10/27/02 09:47 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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drugs are good. it is usually the excess or ABUSE that is bad. look back at all the problems you can ever think of with a drug, now is it a flaw of the drug or a flaw the the user. Sorry but it is clearly the problem of the user. I also see doing drugs as purely a choice that affects an individual. If you want to claim their are drunks that beat their kids or crack addicts that steal for crack. Nah, they already had that in them. It is a psychological thing. Crack doesn't make an honest person a theif. And alcohol may remove a person's inhibitions, but that is simply revealing more of that person than is normally revealed. So they had a tendency towards abuse to begin with.

Here is a good ole William White quote about the question of if drugs are dangerous?

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That's up to you. Most people in our culture seem to shun the idea of taking real risks, whether it be through drugs or high-risk sports such as mountain climbing and hang gliding. On the other hand, when someone goes and climbs a mountain without adequate equipment and training, and then falls to her death, nobody goes and blames the mountain.

There are many people who believe that the risks of drugs are worth the rewards. If you are a legal adult and are willing to take responsibility for your actions, in my opinion you should be permitted to experiment with psychedelics to your heart's content.

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#5076 - 10/27/02 10:04 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i was a month clean...now im one day clean. it was deffinatly worth it

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#5077 - 10/27/02 10:56 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i've been clean and sober for 3 years. damn.. it seems like so much longer. heheh.. ahh. but i guess my head was pretty clouded up back then.

and.. i don't know where the whole abstinence thing comes into play here, but what the hell, i'll comment on it! hehehe.. everyone i know that used to abstain from was sex.. well.. it wasn't really their choice. they just couldn't get laid. as it obviously is a personal choice, i'm still going to have go ahead and say that sex is NOT a bad thing. it doesn't make you dirty or a slut. like me for example, i've had sex before.. but only with one person. so am i dirty? nahh.. am i a slut? nahh.. i'm just a girl that fell in love with a guy.oh yeah.. and it's fun as hell! but again, i guess it is all a personal choice.

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#5078 - 10/28/02 04:20 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hell yeah you're right fleshy

Of course it doesn't mean that you're dirty/slut or whatever only coz you had sex before with someguy you loved, but most of all as you said, it's alwyas a personal choices. Drugs ARE a bad thing as far as i'm concernd but SEX.. no way no fucking way!!! sex is maybe the best thing that exists in this stpuid world, the only real pleasure.. but of course again, there are different types of sex and that's why there is lots of confusion between people, some think that sex is bad some think it's great !! But people mostly talk based on what they survived or what they've been told. For me even if one girl had sex with 10 guys i wouldn't call her a bitch, hell no.. coz that was her fucking personal choice not mine, i'd call someone a BITCH only by her attitude but not coz she had sex... i don't give a damn about that.

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#5079 - 10/28/02 03:22 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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jonconely is right drugs are good but not excess and bp a person who sleeps with 10 guys is a bitch because that is not being clean. ur supposed to have sex when u are married. I suppose sex is a good thing and well come to think of it u dont have to call that girl a bitch bcu she made the decision to get AIDS or genital herpes and to bring her a bad rep.

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#5080 - 10/28/02 04:13 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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listen you fuckin lazy girl...
i suggest you read my post again, a lots of people would call a BITCH a girl which slept with 10 guys or more and yeah she's not clean but who gives a fuck eh ? it's her choice, she decided to be that way and even if she gets the fuckin AIDS i don't care either... and yeah sex is a good thing but there are different types of sex if you already didn't knew that. Everyone makes her/his own decidsions so they are the ones who suffer the consequences.

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#5081 - 10/28/02 06:06 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i was agreeing with u bp my God

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#5082 - 10/28/02 06:42 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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A while back me and my friends went camping, we smoked about a half Ounce and there were 4 of us, Well we decided to make napalm. So we did, and we were putting it on sticks and chasing eachother with them. Well after about 5 hours we started comming down and were going to go to sleep. So right before we went in our tent, I kicked the rest of the napalm across the feild, not looking where it went, and just went to the tent and went to sleep. I woke up, got up to see that the whole feild and part of the woods for about 200 yards was burned down to nothing. Apprently I kicked the napalm through the fire and it spewed out flinging it all across the feild and part of the woods creating a mass fire. And we slept through it all..... That my friends is why drugs are bad!
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#5083 - 10/28/02 06:46 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Originally posted by DaMaRiS:
ur supposed to have sex when u are married.
Maybe if your a god lover or something or u live by abible u might believe that, anyone i know wouldn't wait till they get married, alot of people i know might fuck on a first or second date. Its the 21st century... less morals on sexuality.

LMFAO, thats the funniest shit Ive ever heard. Get in any trouble?
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#5084 - 10/31/02 03:23 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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i was agreeing with u bp my God
huh fine damnit. You know what, i'm really sick of this shit, flaming around the board, so lets just forget about it all coz i just don't give a shit. Peace

bye bye

bp
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#5085 - 10/31/02 02:09 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Ta daaa... More stoner stories to show you people why you shouldn't do drugs. Once again a couple of weeks after the Burning down of the woods incident. We went camping again (Same Spot) Only this time I smoked more pot drunk about of fifth of Vodka I don't remember,and I secretly took 2 morphine pills (hell nO I wasn't sharing em) So we oh course got the munches, and decided to talk to the store. We got there, and everything haden't quite hit me yet. So my and my friend were sitting a bank waiting for my friends to come out of the store when 2 drunk ass people came out and wanted to start something for no reason. They took a swing at my friend. So thinking I was superman (I couldn't feel anything) I went to come down the hill and kick some ass. Thats when i relized I couldn't walk anymore...So I just rolled down the hill and proceeded to get kicked in the head and the side until the rest of my friends came out. There is the biggest reason drugs are bad my friend
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#5086 - 10/31/02 11:30 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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lmfao, thats another fucking beautiful story.

One big reason i think drugs arent very good is the image it gives you. Everyone thinks your abig drugie and shit and thats just not cool, tho some ppl think so.
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#5087 - 11/01/02 03:26 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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yeah Moff i agree with you about the image thing drugs give. I mean 3 years ago here in my city before the war no one probably used used drugs.. i don't know.. they just didn't use em, even if someone did.. you could count them in fingers. Now after the war the drugs are being used tooo much and they're damn too cheap as i hear ppl saying. See one day while i was playing basketball with my friends, some guys came to play.. so while were playing one guy got pretty tired very fast after we just started the damn game and he was breathin too deep like he wasn't gettin enough air. So at one time while i was playing one on one with him, he crunched to steal me the ball and i made a rolling and passed him by but when i saw the guy on the ground i left the ball and turned back to see what happend. The guy was kissin the fuckin ground with his head.. he was breathing like he had run 15 miles, and his eyes were dunno how to explain.. like he was beaten or something but he wasn't, then his friend told him yelling at him "you see now ? you see how good marijuana is ? you see how good they make you feel eh ? you damn idiot" and then we all helped him stand up and brought some water. Damnit i can still remember his face, his eyes, his desperate look and all that shit.. hell, drugs are really really bad, i'll never use... but i know that i will try them one day just to see how it is. huh.

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#5088 - 11/01/02 05:08 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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ok its 2 am, im sleepy so i didnt read the past two pages, only like 3 posts so i got an idea on the topic here :\ my friend was high and its dumb cuz some kid like 2 years younger, short kid.. looks like 9 years old.. but is like 14 told him something and my friend started pushing him and knocking him down, until we broke it up, then he appologized when he was better, but everybody thought bad of it, see weed pretty much makes you look stupid in front of everyone else :\ then agian, it also depends on the situation, who youre around, where you are, what you do etc... does that all make sense, im sleepy i dont know
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#5089 - 11/01/02 06:22 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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I had this friend that went and smoked tons of reefer.

He then went out and was just so totally crazy and not himself. It had to be the marijuana. Its like the work of the devil. The devil works through marijuana. He shot like 20 people.

I was so pissed. I was like, why the fuck don't they throw the drug dealer in jail.

Fuck, they should sue the people that made the gun too. God knows my friend has never hurt anyone before and it has to be the drugs. He was stoned and drunk. He should be totally free to do whatever he may do and blame it on the substance. He has no choice in the matter, he HAD TO KIL THOSE PEOPLE AND ACT CRAZY. Damn he had to do that much of the drugs too. Poor kid.

My friend didn't kill anyone. It was the marijuana I tell ya. It just isn't fair.

I mean if you even take one puff of marijuana, you loss all atheletic ability, all your intelligence, and all your self-respect. There are no other factors involved ever. It is always the drugs.

We should definitely throw more money into the bottomless pit that we have to pay for the war on drugs.

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#5090 - 11/01/02 06:23 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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i would just add that Weed just makes you're whole day go slower, i mean for example. If you had something very important to do and do it fast, it would make you not care, you would again do that thing as slowly as possiable, you'd do everything more slowly as normally. Just slows up everything. Slows up our time dunno how to explain it good maybe.

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#5091 - 11/01/02 01:41 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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BP, didnt you just say you have never smoked? now oyur talking like oyu have some experiance? im confused.

deviation, that wasnt the weed, it was the alcohol. nobody gets violent when they smoke weed, unless its laced with some LSD. even cronic which has cocain in it, has never made anyone i know act in a violent manner.

jon, it was you that earlier gave the quote from wiliam white that said drugs are good and people never do anything on drugs that they dont already have in them. drugs just emably you to do things you have always wanted to do but have never done before. now your blaming aperently blaming your friends actions on the drugs and the gun company? crack doesnt rape women, crackheads rape women. guns dont kill people, people kill people

i know your one of the most respected people on the board but you have obviously contradicted yourself on this topic.

the only way i can make sence of this- your friend recently killed all these people, sometime between oyur 2 posts, between october 27 and november 1. Your friend was also not on marijuana because:
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Originally posted by jonconley:
I mean if you even take one puff of marijuana, you loss all atheletic ability, all your intelligence, and all your self-respect. There are no other factors involved ever. It is always the drugs.
if he was high on weed he wouldnt have athletic ability or the energy to kill 20 people

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Originally posted by jonconley:
We should definitely throw more money into the bottomless pit that we have to pay for the war on drugs.
the only other option that i see is that you are being compleatly sarcastic in this post and you dont actually believe any of this shit and oyu made it all up. if that is the case, well, ill be fealing really stupid.

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#5092 - 11/01/02 05:49 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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it was supposed to be blatant sarcasm But I understand where it wasn't obvious, cuz their were some other hugely exaggerated claims made on the same thread that were completely serious. sorry

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#5093 - 11/02/02 01:15 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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i totally agree with u ohfuck, weed slows u down, calms you down, makes you tired... the complete opposite of what would prolly make someone shoot 20 ppl. I think if he did that much he must b on some crank or cocaine, ive seen cocain make people go crazy and violent and the after effects are just as shitty.
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#5094 - 11/03/02 04:45 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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ok... apparently nobody understands the concept of sarcasm. it is quite obvious that jonathon is fucking around. have any of you seen Reefer Madness? he was kind of making fun of that. The government released this film to discourage people from smoking weed. it said that weed made people go insane... it also made them so violent. stupid crap like that. i thought it was funny jonathon! but of course, me and you have a sick sense of humor ;D maybe that's why we're bestest friends!

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#5095 - 11/03/02 04:51 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Originally posted by ohfuk:
the only other option that i see is that you are being compleatly sarcastic in this post and you dont actually believe any of this shit and oyu made it all up. if that is the case, well, ill be fealing really stupid.
look at that, im quoting myself. im fealling kinda stupid. [shit]

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#5096 - 11/03/02 05:02 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Originally posted by ohfuk:
BP, didnt you just say you have never smoked? now oyur talking like oyu have some experiance? im confused.
you're right ohfuk, that's just how it sounds like but it's the truth too.

I didn't smoke ever but i have some friends who do drugs you know and i talk with them a lot about all these thigns tryin' to help em out someway and that's how i get to know about all those things, i know stuff because i was also in some seminars AGAINST DRUGS which were founded by USA and i learned a lot there about different types of drugs, their effects and so on...

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#5097 - 11/05/02 06:04 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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#5098 - 11/06/02 03:19 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hahahah that was really cool Chem.. lol.

btw i also like this "Second hand smoke kills" and i have it as a poster in my room. Some cowboy riding is in it.

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#5099 - 11/07/02 02:09 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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So I assume you are one of the people that love those truth commercials?

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#5100 - 11/07/02 03:40 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hmmm maybe.. i like that one because it looks good on my wall that's all. lol.

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#5101 - 11/10/02 01:53 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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*cue eminem* --"The Kids"
Bob's 30 and still lives with his Mom
and he don't got a job Cause Bob sits at home and smokes pot
But his 12 year old brother looks up to him awful lot.
And Bob likes to hang out at the local waffle spot
and wait in the parking lot for waitresses off the clock
When it's late and the lot gets dark and fake like he walks his dog
He drag 'em in the woods and goes straight to the choppin block.
And even if they escape and got the cops
The ladies would be so afraid, they would drop the charge
Till one night Mrs. Stacey went off the job
When she felt someone grab her whole face and said not to talk
But Stacey knew it was Bob and said knock it off
But Bob wouldn't knock it off cause he's crazy and off his rocker.
Crazier than Slim Shady is off the vodka
You couldn't even take him to Dre's to get Bob a doctor
He grabbed Stace by the leg, he chopped it off her
And dropped her off in the lake for the cops to find her
But ever since the day Stacey went off the wander
They never found her, and Bob still hangs at the waffle diner
And that's the story of Bob and his marijuana,
And what it might do to you
So see if the squirrels want it, cause it's bad for you

See children, drugs are bad
And ff you don't believe me, ask your Dad
And If you don't believe him, ask your Mom
She'll tell you how she does 'em all the time
So kids say no to drugs
So you don't act like everyone else does
And there's really nothing else to say
Drugs are just bad mmmkay?
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#5102 - 11/10/02 05:12 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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nice !!
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#5103 - 11/11/02 01:59 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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#5104 - 11/11/02 06:38 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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curse, thats what im saying. you shoud question all athority. our lives are already too controled. freedom must be restored!

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#5105 - 11/13/02 03:32 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I consider drugs as a traveling ticket to the middle of nowhere (literally). Imagine what would've happened if it was legalized. I found this in a webpage enjoy. Have you ever asked yourself, why is it illegitimate?...
Tough question! In order to explain why hemp, the most useful plant known to mankind, became illegal, we have to understand the reasons why marijuana, the drug, became illegal. In fact, it helps to go way back to the beginning of the century and talk about two other drugs, opium (the grandfather of heroin) and cocaine.
Opium, a very addictive drug (but relatively harmless by today's standards) was once widely used by the Chinese. The reasons for this are a whole other story, but suffice to say that when Chinese started to immigrate to the United States, they brought opium with them. Chinese workers used opium to induce a trance-like state which helped make boring, repetitive tasks more interesting. It also numbs the mind to pain and exhaustion. By using opium, the Chinese were able to pull very long hours in the sweat shops of the Industrial Revolution. During this period of time, there was no such thing as fair wages, and the only way a worker could make a living was to produce as much as humanly possible.

Since they were such good workers, the Chinese held a lot of jobs in the highly competitive industrial work-place. Even before the Great Depression, when millions of jobs disappeared overnight, the White Americans began to resent this, and Chinese became hated among the White working class. Even more than today, White Americans had a very big political advantage over the Chinese -- they spoke English and had a few relatives in the government, so it was easy for them to come up with a plan to force Chinese immigrants to leave the country (or at least keep them from inviting all their relatives to come and live in America.) This plan depended on stirring up racist feelings, and one of the easiest things to focus these feelings on was the foreign and mysterious practice of using opium.

We can see this pattern again with cocaine, except with cocaine it was Black Americans who were the target. Cocaine probably was not especially useful in the work-place, but the strategy against Chinese immigrants (picking on their drug of choice) had been so successful that it was used again. In the case of Blacks, though, the racist feelings ran deeper, and the main thrust of the propaganda campaign was to control the Black community and keep Blacks from becoming successful. Articles appeared in newspapers which blamed cocaine for violent crime by Blacks. Black Americans were painted as savage, uncontrollable beasts when under the influence of cocaine -- it was said to make a single Black man as strong as four or five police officers. (sound familiar?) By capitalizing on racist sentiments, a powerful political lobby banned opium and then cocaine.

Marijuana was next. It was well known that the Mexican soldiers who fought America during the war with Spain smoked marijuana. Poncho Villa, A Mexican general, was considered a nemesis for the behavior of his troops, who were known to be especially rowdy. They were also known to be heavy marijuana smokers, as the original lyrics to the song `la cucaracha' show. (The song was originally about a Mexican soldier who refused to march until he was provided with some marijuana.)

After the war had ended and Mexicans had begun to immigrate into the South Eastern United States, there were relatively few race problems. There were plenty of jobs in agriculture and industry and Mexicans were willing to work cheap. Once the depression hit and jobs became scarce, however, Mexicans suddenly became a public nuisance. It was said by politicians (who were trying to please the White working class) that Mexicans were responsible for a violent crime wave. Police statistics showed nothing of the sort -- in fact Mexicans were involved in less crime than Whites. Marijuana, of course, got the blame for this phony outbreak of crime and health problems, and so many of these states made laws against using cannabis. (In the Northern states, marijuana was also associated with Black jazz musicians.)

Here is where things start to get complicated. Put aside, for a moment, all the above, because there are a few other things involved in this twisted tale. At the beginning of the Great Depression, there was a very popular movement called Prohibition, which made alcohol illegal. This was motivated mainly by a Puritan religious ethic left over from the first European settlers. Today we have movies and television shows such as the ``Untouchables'' which tell us what it was like to live during this period. Since it is perhaps the world's most popular drug, alcohol prohibition spawned a huge `black market' where illegal alcohol was smuggled and traded at extremely high prices. Crime got out-of-hand as criminals fought with each other over who could sell alcohol where. Organized crime became an American institution, and hard liquor, which was easy to smuggle, took the place of beer and wine.

In order to combat the crime wave, a large police force was formed. The number of police grew rapidly until the end of Prohibition when the government decided that the best way to deal with the situation was to just give up and allow people to use alcohol legally. Under Prohibition the American government had essentially (and unwittingly) provided the military back-up for the take-over of the alcohol business by armed thugs. Even today, the Mob still controls liquor sales in many areas. After Prohibition the United States was left with nothing to show but a decade of political turmoil -- and a lot of unemployed police officers.

During Prohibition, being a police officer was a very nice thing -- you got a relatively decent salary, respect, partial immunity to the law, and the opportunity to take bribes (if you were that sort of person.) Many of these officers were not about to let this life-style slip away. Incidentally, it was about this time when the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs was reformed, and a man named Harry J. Anslinger was appointed as its head. (Anslinger was appointed by his uncle-in-law, Andrew Mellon, who was the Secretary of the United States Treasury.) Anslinger campaigned tirelessly for funding in order to hire a large force of narcotics officers. After retiring, Anslinger once mused that the FBNDD was a place where young men were given a license to steal and rape.

The FBNDD is the organization which preceded what we now call the DEA, and was responsible for enforcing the new Federal drug laws against heroin, opium, and cocaine. One of Anslinger's biggest concerns as head of the FBNDD was getting uniform drug laws passed in all States and the Federal legislature. (Anslinger also had a personal dislike of jazz music and the Black musicians who made it. He hated them so much that he spent years tracking each of them and dreamed of arresting them all in one huge, cross-country sweep.) Anslinger frequented parent's and teacher's meetings giving scary speeches about the dangers of marijuana, and this period of time became known as Reefer Madness. (The name comes from the title of a silly movie produced by a public health group.)

To make a long story short, during the first decades of this century, opium was made illegal to kick out the Chinese immigrants who had flooded the work-force. Cocaine was made illegal to repress and control the Black community. And, marijuana was made illegal in order to control Mexicans in the Southeast (and Blacks.) All these laws were based mainly on emotional racism, without much else to back them up -- you can easily tell this by reading the hearings held in state legislatures. Also at this time, the end of Prohibition left us with a large force of unemployed police officers, who looked for work enforcing the new drug laws. Consequently, these same police officers needed to convince the country that their jobs were important. They did so by scaring parents about the dangers of drugs. All this set the stage for a law passed in the Federal legislature which put a prohibitive tax on marijuana. This is what killed the hemp industry in 1937, since it made business in hemp impossible.
Before the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act, the state of Kentucky was the center of a relatively large American hemp industry which produced cloth and tow (rope for use in shipping.) The industry would have been larger, but hemp had one major disadvantage: processing it required a lot of work. Men had to `brake' hemp stalks in order to separate the fiber from the woody core. This was done on a small machine called a hand-brake, and it was a job fit for Hercules. It was not until the 1930's that machines to do this became widely available.

Today we use paper made by a process called `chemical pulping'. Before this, trees were processed by `mechanical pulping' instead, which was much more expensive. At about the same time as machines to brake hemp appeared, the idea of using hemp hurds for making paper and plastic was proposed. Hemp hurds were normally considered to be a worthless waste product that was thrown away after it was stripped of fiber. New research showed that these hurds could be used instead of wood in mechanical pulping, and that this would drastically reduce the cost of making paper. Popular Mechanics Magazine predicted that hemp would rise to become the number one crop in America. In fact, the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act was so unexpected that Popular Mechanics had already gone to press with a cover story about hemp, published in 1938 just two months after the Tax Act took effect.

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#5106 - 11/13/02 05:26 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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That is a very nice article...

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#5107 - 11/13/02 07:41 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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why dont they teach that in school?

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#5108 - 11/14/02 12:00 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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I bet the writer figured that out after smooking some weed...
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#5109 - 11/14/02 03:21 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Originally posted by ohfuk:
why dont they teach that in school?
because SCHOOLS SUCK ohfuk that's why!!
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#5110 - 11/14/02 04:02 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Because School is government run, the government never teaches about it's mistakes...

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#5111 - 11/14/02 05:46 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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well it was a retorical question....but ok

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#5112 - 11/14/02 09:55 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Salvia Divinorium,
I would like to try this, its a drug, but its legal, and was used by the aztec's,
anyone else hear of this?

p.s, though its a drug, it does not make you high, stoned, or anything marijuana or street drug related,
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#5113 - 11/15/02 02:44 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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I have heard of it... It has it's on weird high, that can not be catagorized as "fun", but it is enjoyable. It makes you think like you are outside of your body and can cause hallucinations.

http://www.erowid.org

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#5114 - 11/15/02 03:22 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hell no, i HATE hallucinations, the drug seems like not bad but if it causes hallucinations ... hmmm.

Salvia Divinorium - Interseting

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#5115 - 11/15/02 01:40 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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don't knock anymore dogshit signs off=( i h8 dogshit, it's everywhere
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#5116 - 11/15/02 04:30 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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No, it doesn’t cause hallucinations, and it cant really be explained because it not like any other drug, and its not a social drug, its more like a chemical induced deep meditation, or something a bit beyond meditation, I cant really explain seeing as how Iv never tried it, I’m just quoting other people's experiences posted on the net,
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#5117 - 11/15/02 04:37 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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hallucinations r ok until u hav a bad trip.point an case.my cusin,tries lsd hadf a bad trip an got so freaked he has psykiatrik sessions now an only does weed
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#5118 - 11/15/02 05:19 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Bentley,
genesis 1:12-The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kind, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each accoring to its kind. And God saw that it was good. how the fuck is that directly marajuana related?

alienterror...your in sweeden, how does me pointlessly knocking down pointless signs effect you at all?

halucinogens are ok, once in a long while, in small amounts, with friends tyhat wont fuck with your head when your trippin

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#5119 - 11/22/02 01:30 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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from page one:"weed isnt that bad" pfft! asteos u told em good I know people who are so brain dead from weed, you can tell how it has affected em, and one of my friends used to have lots of friends cuz of weed, then she stopped, and now, well shes got no friends, its sad, wow u get high for a couple hours and thats it, the rest is just bad, it affects your whole life, your whole way of thinking, what people think of you.
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#5120 - 12/22/02 01:41 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I dunno, drugs just do lotsa things, the other day I went to this plaza type place we have here in L.A and we were skating by and some guy just grabbed my friend out of nowhere telling him to give him his board,and his eyes were all red, he got loose and we started skating away again and he was trying to catch up but he couldnt even run straignt, hes all taking off his shirt trying to catch up to any of us and i guess fight or something. crazy day.
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#5121 - 12/23/02 02:15 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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That sounds like Crack or PCP... Maybe Methamphetamine...

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#5122 - 12/23/02 02:37 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Quote:
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Because School is government run, the government never teaches about it's mistakes...
That's not completely true. I'm taking a shit-load of U.S. History courses this year (because I'm hurtin' on social study credits) and one of them is titled "Us And Them" It teaches about intolerism throughout American History. From the Pruitans and witches, U.S. government vs. Native Americans, Prejudices (historically) against Irish, Chinese, Catholic, Japanese, Italian, and now Middle Eastern folks. Not to mention all the other courses I'm taking, which talk a lot about U.S. history (obviously) but in my class we have a lot of debates on decisions made by presidents, laws passed, etc.. Granted, I'm in an accelerated credit program that most kids aren't in. It's still cool to be learning about shit like that. Shit that doesn't get tought and debated like that as in other classes. So I guess it just depends on your teacher(s) or programs you decide to take throughout high school. This has gotten totally off-topic, sorry. Refer back to SolidSnake's posted article about immigrants and drug use.
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#5123 - 12/23/02 06:09 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I was so stunned last yaer when my teacher told me what we did to the japanese during WWII. I can't believe we did the samet hing our enemies did, albet to a lesser degree. My teacher tought from a neutral stand point mostly. I mean, she told us her opinions, but she made sure that we realized they were only opinions. She told us about the good and the bad. Are you takine AP Asteos? that's what I took and i passed the AP test somehow, not really sure how.
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#5124 - 12/24/02 12:10 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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/me hates people who only beleive what the government tells them...
I also hate people that only believe what their pothead friends tell them. I am not saying the government is this reliable source, but I know alot of people that keep spreading these "facts" about weed that they got from their friends. It is like hearing a debate before an election, both sides are lying.

It is easier to just stay away from it than give a shit.

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#5125 - 12/24/02 02:56 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Chem, I've heard about salvia divinorum. It doesn't sound half bad, but make sure you do it when somebody else is around, and do it the right way or it has no effect. Look at this -

http://www.drbongs.com/salvia/salvia_divinorum_index.html
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#5126 - 12/25/02 01:28 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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I hate it when potheads/hard core druggies tell me their own made up facts about drugs also...

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#5127 - 12/26/02 07:11 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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heh same here.
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#5128 - 01/10/03 03:49 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I also realized im at the point where anyone telling me "Oh i got stoned man" or "lets go get stoned or "Im gonna go get stoned" or anything dealing wiht being drugged up annoys me, I mean i see this crap every day of my life now that if i see someone doing it, I dont think anything of it but when they brag about it, or just talk to me about it, it irritates me. i dunno its just something that gets mentioned to me daily usually by the same people and now i just go along with it but really it annoys me. odd....
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#5129 - 01/10/03 05:29 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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yep.. i used to do drugs.. weed mostly.. and drink my alcohol everyday. then i quit for some reason. i still smoke my tasty cigarette treats.. but that's the only thing. i guess i take my prescription mediciation, but that's the extent of my 'drug' usage. haha.. i don't even take aspirin or over the counter drugs. oh.. except for tums. but those new berry flavored ones are so yummy!

i know this sounds mean.. but seriously, drugs are fucking stupid. it's fine if you want to go through one of those phases and try new stuff out. we all explore when we're young. but if you actually make doing drugs a life long habit, then you're just a loser. you want some real fun? try dealing with life without the escape you get from drugs or alcohol. yeah... that's what i'm talkin' bout. hahaha.. perhaps that's why i'm constantly depressed? oh well. it's more fun to be depressed than to be all drunk and puking. in my world anyway.
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#5130 - 01/10/03 06:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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yeep, yeah i know drugs are bad, obviously tried it, who hasnt. But I never got into it. its stupid and I dont see a reason for it. waste of time.
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#5131 - 01/11/03 04:46 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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why is this in anarchy ?

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#5132 - 01/12/03 02:23 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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why not here? it fits, and its doing good here so let it be.
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#5133 - 03/11/03 07:25 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Weed all the WAY!!!
i smoke a lot of herb and do all kinda of other drugs, and still get good grades and my parents dont hate me. so if your smart about what kinda drugs you do and when u do em, y not legalize them?

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#5134 - 03/11/03 10:21 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I've never spoke out about this topic. Where I live, drugs are very common, so very much so use to it and it's no big deal. I won't say I haven't tried and it's interesting but I grew out of it. Ok once in awhile i'll drink because i'm at a party, don't have to pay hey it's fun... That's very rare, I had a time I would drink more often then i realized it was dumb... Then weed, if you really think of it, it's such a waste of time... What are you escaping? I mean it's like when I sleep, eventully I wake up and realized wow wtf it's already 6, what's going on huh and I feel all was wasted in my daze. Now I just save my money and go movies or food etc. Cigarettes are a different issue, I don't like them, but I smoke once in awhile. It's not taste, to be cool or anything just feels good especially when stressed but I hate how it sucks me in. I can quit and start whenever so eh... Drugs are over rated I guess... People asked me should we legalize weed, well I don't know, I see the pros and cons. Pros is gangs might slowly drop off, won't be as many... That's what happened to the mobs when alcohol was legalized again. Cons are imagine risks of car accidents etc.

Sry was a long one but eh
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#5135 - 03/12/03 01:04 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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yeah, in L.A drugs are the most common thing, heh weed here weed there, thats all you hear about, but then theres alot of other stuff thats "coming out of the woodworks" like coke, glass, Nos, stuff like that, theres been a increase on that, ive started to see more and more ppl use that and talk about it, its not just about weed anymore.
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#5136 - 03/12/03 11:24 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Dev, you have more niggers and mexicans than half the world.. Not to mention all of the mexican dirt weed...
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#5137 - 03/12/03 01:14 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Everyone knows that all the potent stuff is in Amsterdam, Canada, Jamaica and Thai-land.
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#5138 - 03/12/03 08:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i have some preaty potent stuff were i live....Boulder

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#5139 - 03/12/03 09:04 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I resent that, we have some potent "stuff" in Oregon.
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#5140 - 03/12/03 09:10 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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"stuff" lol

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#5141 - 03/12/03 10:32 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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LOL... When I was in Jamaca they always tried to sell me.
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#5142 - 03/13/03 10:48 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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No shit, the Jamacans are hardcore man...
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#5143 - 03/13/03 02:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Yup, mos def.
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#5144 - 03/14/03 03:51 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Ya mon. I can't believe how far this topic has stretched.
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#5145 - 03/14/03 04:15 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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despite the fact that those 3 locations are the source of most of the potent marijana in the world, lots of the good stuff makes it into the good old US of A.

not many topics make it to 100, will this be one of them? I'm proud to have started it all those months ago.

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#5146 - 03/14/03 06:11 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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*clap clap*. LOL, well it's doing a good job. It is a very interesting topic.
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#5147 - 03/14/03 08:09 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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.. not really but I'll go along with it anyways. 6 months ago I would have agreed w.you.
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#5148 - 04/03/03 05:12 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Man i hadnt smoked weed for almost three months then yesterday i had a couple bowls. I have more but am gunna save that for Wednesday. Man I had so much fun. We were on a church trip to the mall. Got stoned in the bathrooms. Then came home 4 of us chilled at my house. Went for a walk had some more weed. Then we went to the movies. Then the person i was with gave me some for laters. I am happy. I was so happy yesterday. It was some good stuff. Wish it would have been knife hits though. Thats the best way! We had a stupid lame pipe. Oh well its weed!!!
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#5149 - 04/03/03 05:33 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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why smoke anything that makes you dumber? is stupidness that popular? guess i'm not hip.
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#5150 - 04/03/03 05:55 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Some of us have braincells to waste. And rather than drink some alcohol, breath oxygen, or even smoke a cigarette, some ppl like to smoke weed. So tons of shit kills brain cells, the real question isn't "are you going to kill brain cells?", it is 'Are you going to have fun doing it?"

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#5151 - 04/03/03 06:08 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Also you only use 10% of your brain. What am i gunna do to the other 90%.... hmmm i wonder. Why just let it sit there why not have fun?
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#5152 - 04/04/03 12:54 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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"Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading Skeptical Inquirer, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another."

http://www.csicop.org/si/9903/ten-percent-myth.html
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#5153 - 04/04/03 01:12 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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#5154 - 04/04/03 01:33 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Marijuana is like any other drug, it should be used in moderation. "As long as it doesn't harm you, why would it bother you".

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#5155 - 04/08/03 01:07 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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weed does harm you though.
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#5156 - 04/08/03 03:03 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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I got another reason Drugs are bad. Me and a friend were at a party and we were fucked up, we walked to the gas station and on the way back it got dark. We couldnt find his house so we wondered around for about 3:00 am and we were out of it. Well i was seeing and hearing shit when all of a sudden i saw my other friend wave at me from a window or so i though... so we went inside and sat down 10 mins later we found out this was my friends house that had the party and ran out. 5 mins latter we were picked up my the pigs

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#5157 - 04/08/03 08:28 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hmm, looks like the problem there exists with you and your friend and not with the drugs. If people aren't responsible and do not use things in moderation, then bad things like that, can happen. Hell, if yo wanna be stupid and OD on tylenol, you can become sicker than a dog. So my point it, the drugs aren't a problem, your maturity at the time is. Seeing and hearing stuff? Pick a better situation and mindframe to trip in. Get a trip sitter. Know your limit.

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#5158 - 04/08/03 09:03 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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lmfao, what dumbasses

drugs arent bad

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#5159 - 04/08/03 09:41 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Ares, great adventure! LOL. Shit well it varies per a person, thoughts on drugs and how they can handle it. Some people have an idea what they are doing, can remember whats going on, even though things are fucked up. Point is, if you are one of em people who can't be outside when high dont go outside lol. So far we been talking about weed, weed, weed.... The topic is drugs are bad... I don't see a problem with weed, as long you know your limit. However I do have to agree there are bad drugs out there that can really fuck up your body.
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#5160 - 04/11/03 03:03 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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hmm, i guess people around here like to make themselfs alot dumber than they are from the beginning. weed make you dumb...i want to stay sharp.
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#5161 - 04/11/03 01:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hmm well the issue is that hasn't been exactly proven. Sure we lose brain cells but that doesn't mean we stop making new ones. I mean you are saying every stoner is moron. I know a kid in my grade who is a heavy stoner and he gets nothing lower then at 90 in any of his classes, he is very bright.
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#5162 - 04/11/03 03:22 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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studies show that braincells grow back, they take about 7years, im talking about loss from weed usage, nothing hardcore.

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#5163 - 04/11/03 04:13 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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hkzknight: are you talking high school classes or college classes? cuz getting good grades in high school isn't shit. unless you're from europe, they have hard schools. but american high schools are too easy. hell.. even most basic college courses are simple. now, if he was studying quantum computing and still doing that well.. ok then, you've made a point.
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#5164 - 04/12/03 06:22 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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Actully it varies per HS, the New York ones are toughest (damn regions). He is a friend of mine in College doing engineering. I can't agree on the fact every stoner is dumb... I am sure you can find some genius stoner out there.
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#5165 - 04/13/03 01:26 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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new york high schools are the toughest? hahaha. but they aren't any good. i went to one of the "best" high schools in the nation... it was fucking easy as hell.

i agree that not every single stoner is stupid... but most are. it's rare to find one that isn't. i know a guy that used to be a huge pothead...he was always highly intelligent. so i know what you're saying. but still.. you have to admit that most people that do drugs are stupid.
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#5166 - 04/13/03 01:51 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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/me looks in on the drug topic.

Ph33r! The genius stoner has arrived!!!

I'm in college with a 3.9gpa after my first year. I smoke about a 1/4 ouce a week. I have been smoking that much or more for about the last 6 years.

Weed doesn't make people dumb. Dumb people blame weed for their stupidity when it's nothing more than a bad genepool.

IF YOU SMOKE WEED AND YOU ARE DUMB IT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT, NOT BECAUSE YOU SMOKE WEED!!!

Ok, I'm done here

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#5167 - 05/07/03 08:28 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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i agree with u 100% infinite, dumbasses smoke weed and once they get cought and/or arrested they blame their fucking problems on weeed

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#5168 - 05/07/03 08:29 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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btw not all stoners are stupid, like me

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#5169 - 01/03/04 03:05 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Hi everyone none of you will know me because i basically signed up to this forum just to be included in this debate cos i reckon its well interesting. Most of you obviously seem to be from america so maybe my contirbution has less relevance as i come from england and the drugs culture i think is quite different nonetheless it might be interesting.
I live in the south of england in a very remote tightnit culture of drug takin, we have all been smokin weed for aobut 3 years or so and i dont think i have not had at least one spliff for less than a week during that time, on average its prolly every other day.
A couple of years ago we all started taking lots of other drugs aswell cos thats what the people older than us were doing at it seemed fun. Consequently i have taken a few different drugs, not loads, but quite a few and actually i reckon that the constant use of cannabis has been the far most damaging thing to me.
I think when the government are campainging against drugs in america and enlgand they could actually give a good argument if they weren't such a bunch of idiots, cannabis changes the chemistry of your head, it doest make you stupid it makes u slower because it raises the level of morpine in your brain as a chemical reaction, someone suffering from psychosis has this exact same reaction going on in their brain, when i used to first use it it was brilliant like we used just get hi and it was cool but now it really starts to mess with my head like i think its messed up my self confidence im often depressed i get paranoid and everything is just different. Now at this point its important to mention that the only weed we get is skunk and its strong stuff, (an interesting fact that you might not know is that nearly all of the cannabis sold in amsterdam is grown in england).
And the annoying thing is everyone who i know has got exactly the same problems but only a few people in the community are atually brave enuf to jus try and give it up and say this is crap, its stupid and it messes up ure head, the culture of weed is twisted since it started in the 60's and is completely built on ingorance. Im still gonna take e cos i go to raves alot and its fun and maybe sesh the trips every once in a while but i think im gonna stop smoking foreva, this may seem strange to alot of you but i think that people should stop and take a step back and look at all the misconceptions that society is giving about drugs like weed, anyone whos scared of drugs because of death is foolish u shuld be scared of drugs because they just change your head period. And this is coming from someone living in a country near to legalising cannabis, they no exactly the spychosis it can induce, the reason its gonna be eventually legalised cos they will get so much money fomr taxing it like they get fomr tobacco, its ridiculous.

Sorry that was a bit of a rant and some of it may not have made sense or been inaccurate but basically i think that people should not be so quick to put weed in a different seriousness to all the other drugs that are described as "hard drugs".
Oh yea and if you actually use Salvia Divinorium in a decent amountand of a decent strength then i can assure that you will trrrrrrrip like nothing u can possibly imagine theres no reason why it shuld be legal in comparioson to lsd or magic mushrooms it jsut dont last as long,
Drugs are bad but i do em cos thats the culture i got and im happy wit it, but i wuldnt advise doin em to neone, isn't that stupid? Neways i am interested in whateva someone has to say agianst all the stuff i jus sed and neone that agrees cos im sure my argument needs alot of refining, cheers

Eddy.

p.s I am totally not a hard core or iresponsible druggy or nething i have always looked into everything and spoken to alot of knowledgeable people about drugs beofer i tried em oh and i dont do addictive drugs, that i can generally afford hehe. peace.

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#5170 - 01/03/04 03:11 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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oh yea i 4got and neone who wants good info on drugs should checkout http://www.erowid.org or http://www.talktofrank.com, erowids betta but check then both out cos they both have benefits and cons in the information they give..

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#5171 - 03/20/04 04:53 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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dude maybe it's the E that's screwing with your head. You taake E who's very purpose is to affect you brain chemistry but you blame weed because your slow???? you need to read a lot more.
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#5172 - 03/21/04 10:44 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Okay kiddies, Uncle Learner will tell you all about drugs. I used to drive 2 hrs to raves to pick up various substances to sell. For profit, no no young ones, to allow me to continue to use these same drugs. I have eaten 25 hits of LSD and snorted an 8ball of coke in a 5 minute period. Both were good.

I did a stupid study on myself. I spent 2 months on LSD non stop. I woke up and poped 2 tabs, 2 hrs later 2 more, and on I went. Now this made dealing a bit tough because money was hard to count while it is moving around in your hand. I smoked weed like it was a cigaret. It was just something to do. We didn't even consider it a drug really.

I used, coke, weed, LSD, crack, glass(we will get to that), crystal, Micro Dots, E, and some shit I never found out what it was. Here is the deal. Hit the rave with a pocket full of cash. Score anything and everything. You have to be smart though. By a small quantity first. Test the product. It's good? Go back before you are stupid high and buy him out. Now leave before the damn rave gets busted and before you can't drive.

Get home, no time for sleep call buddies(customers) set up sales, make sales you can now. Okay now it is noon and you have yet to sleep. Your mind is mush, but your body is in full on party mode. Mind just needs a kick. Snort Glass or crystal.

Glass - The most evil drug I have ever seen/used in my life. One line will keep you good for 3 days. I think it was realy ICE, but the dealers we got it from called it glass. Shards that cut you as you snort them. I am talking bad shit.

So I live this way for 3 years. Everyday was a party. One buz to the next. I seriously do not recognise faces from highschool because, well the last 2 years thier faces were distored by mind altering drugs in my head.

Holy shit, how did you turn out?

I was booted out of my families house. I moved in with this chick who's parents let me do whatever because they got free shit. I droped out of highschool. I worked at a resturant and was excited when I moved up to assitant cook(dealt to the staff too).

My father came to me one day and offered one of 2 things. 1.) An ass whiping. or 2.) Move back in and go to collage or join the millitary. My first whole sober month I was kinda confused. I did not know how to interact with anyone. I truely felt burnt. Month 2 was worse. Month 3 was a bit better and I had my GED and was talking to an ARMY recruiter. 9 months later I was in basic training. I tested almost perfect on the ASVAB test and had my pick of anyjob. I chose a communications feild.

I spent 4 drunk years in there. Got married landed a job at verizon for more than I ever thought I would make. I am now sharper than ever.

What I found out latter is you can actually learn things in a state of mind. In other words you can learn how to shoot pool awsome while drunk or coked out and suck at it sober. And the same is true of the opposite.

Drugs are bad. They cause your body to do things it normally would not do. Over time this will cause long term effects. You can however recover as my life is proof. I do not think I was ever addicted to anything accept these damn cigarets. These will be the death of me. That is just sad. Not crack, coke, crystal, glass, PCP... Nope cigarets...
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#5173 - 03/21/04 03:50 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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so another guy who used the military instead of rehab. seems we ha alot in common sin.

i also used to stay screwed up for days at a time. one time when i was night shift manager at a restaurant (the hours were 12:00 am to 8:00am) i went to work on an 1/8th of shrooms and had to work the grill. i didn't eat meat for a long time after that.

but seriously when i read your post i saw alot of myself in it except that glass thing, i did a lot of meth. as a matter of fact one guy that i used to do meth with got convicted of murdering and raping a 13 year old boy after being awake and strung out for a week straight. yes this is the extreme but when it comes to meth not that extreme. And that i just reenlisted a year ago, and i'm in the Navy not the Army. i don't usually let people know that on these types of boards but what the hell. i believe that the people here don't care about that.

but as for all other drugs all doing them ever did for me was make me want more. when i enlisted all i had was a garbage bag full of clothes and a coke habit, now i have a paycheck 2 new cars (03 accord, '03 civic) 2 kids a wife and i am buying a house so yes you can be turned around, but for god sake don't think the military is the only way to do it because the only one who can do it is you. as a matter of fact 2 weeks ago my whole ship (i am on a carrier) had to go to an open court marshall where 15 junior sailors were all kicked out for failing a piss test. so no matter where you are you have to make the decision to kick.

and yes i was able to kick everything but cigs....Kool in the box here.
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#5174 - 03/21/04 07:20 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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/me nods at Damn_Noob. A lot in common indeed. A buddy of mine was involved in making pipe bombs. He sold them to this guy in D.C. There was some argument over price and threats of who was going to kill who. Well one methed out night, my buddy took a .22 and shot this guy in the head 3 times. My buddy is doing life for it. It is kinda crazy realy. I mean I have old freinds that never cleaned up and they are realy sad. There is only 3 out of my click that made it. The rest are dead, in jail, missing, or living in thier parents basement scraping money to get the next bag. Now late teen early early 20's okay, We are going on 30...
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#5175 - 03/21/04 07:45 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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know what you mean about the friends dude, it's crazy to be able to call my boy from high school (10 years ago) at the same number at his parents house.
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#5176 - 04/02/04 05:15 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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"drugs are bad mmmkay?" wait....what? When did drugs start to be bad for human kind? :X
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#5177 - 04/12/04 01:11 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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I AM SO SICK OF THIS THREAD!
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#5178 - 04/12/04 02:45 AM Re: why drugs are bad
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Then stop replying to the fucking thing!
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#5179 - 04/13/04 01:35 PM Re: why drugs are bad
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lmao! dood, chem, sit back, and take a chill pill.

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for real, I was being sarcastic if that wasn't obvious. But if it's not directed at my personal continuation of what I deam to be amusing, and not just let the anal over critical posts take over. Then bro it's just a post, I like seeing almost 10 pages of replies, it shows what an amassment of people really like. When you notice that, you notice more things.
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