#29094 - 03/22/03 04:00 AM
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yeah. but canada would get it's [censored] kicked if it went to war with iraq.  hehe and i doubt bush is doing it 'just because he's a republican'. that is just silly reasoning! it's like saying that i hate minorities because i'm a fascist. oh wait.... anyway... yeah. i think it's for the oil. i don't mind bush so much. don't agree with everything, but he doesn't really bother that much. i just wish he would stop lying and [censored] admit that this war is all about the oil. then i'd have a lot of respect for him. it may be a shitty reason to go to war, but hey at least he would be telling the truth already!
"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"
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#29095 - 03/22/03 08:10 AM
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They discovered oil in some shitty country, I can't remember what it was, Venezuala i think. Supposedly there is as much oil there as there is in Iraq. Not to mention oil in Alaska.
N. Korea is more of an immediete threat to the countries around it like Russia and China, not to the US. We don't have to focus on them because the countries around NK can handle it for now. Yeah, and Iraq might not be an immediete threat to the US either but that's not the reason I see us going to war for. The countries around Iraq aren't going to do anything, well, until now.
Comparing the US to Iraq is like comparing a Leprechaun to a Rock. Sure, the Leprechaun did some bad things, but the rock is totally evil.
The US isn't being the evil police, they are just being the police. Yeah, I wonder why they decided to do it now, instead of sometime during the last twelve years, too. Maybe it's just cause Bush was the first president to care.
The reason I defend the reasons to go to war is because there are enough people opposing war. But like I said, I don't care either way.
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#29098 - 03/22/03 03:08 PM
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cold sunn.. i think i have a problem with everything you said in that last post of yours. ok.. first off.. takes too much time/energy/money to find alternative sources for oil. iraq already has a smooth operation set up. we aren't that [censored] stupid. would we rather take years developing sites in other countries or just take it from a country that already has it figured out? duhhh.. the second one. and sure, it may be selfish. but wtf? that's the US for you. next: North Korea being more of a threat to Russia and China? umm... are you really that dumb or just pretending? i hope you're just faking it. cuz North Korea wants nothing more than to see the US crushed. North Korea says it is preparing for total war with the United States and has threatened a pre-emptive strike if Washington sends extra forces to the region. uhh.. that's what i thought! here's the link to the entire story if you want it: http://www.abc.net.au/ra/newstories/RANewsStories_779394.htm Kim Jong (leader of North Korea in case you don't know) said that he considered the US going to war with Iraq as a terrorist attack on N.Korea. yeah.. i don't know how he reasoned that away to himself either. but he that's his stand on the whole issue. next: the US aren't being the 'evil police'? c'mon. that's what the US is known for! sticking their noses into everyone's business and killing people in the meantime. this whole iraq situation deals with just the oil. that is why we're doing it now. because this Bush actually has the balls and a decent cover story in order to go to war just for oil. i just wish he'd admit it. but anyone with half a brain could figure out that one.
"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"
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#29107 - 03/26/03 10:38 PM
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Ok, I just read this page 'cause I'm such a lazy-[censored] and I'm tired of war talks. Personally, I've given into the superior tactics of the Bush administration. I have a general contempt for anything French and I'm still actively seeking an "I(HEART)WAR" button to show my patriotism. But I have 2 problems with things I've read. A: Fleshy, SEARCHING FOR ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF ENERGY? SEARCHING?! ARE YOU INSANE?! There are many alternative energy sources in the world: wind, solar, nuclear, you can run your damn car with small amounts of diesal and soybeans with just some slight engine modifications. The reason it seems like it takes so much time, money, effort, etc. is because that's what the oil companies want you to believe.
B: Communism is, in theory, the most effective and fair form of government. Everything is equal. However, in practice, it sucks. As Churchill said "Communism is the equal sharing of hardships" (I can't remember the exact words).
That's just something I wanted to point out.
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#29109 - 03/27/03 12:52 AM
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dashocker: first off, hahahahahaha! you're funny. i know a lot about other forms of renewable energy. what i meant was "searching for alternative places to drill for oil" guess i should have specified it better. but anyway, you're wrong here. none of the alternative methods are as good as oil. sorry, but it's true. wind won't work. solar isn't strong enough. and nuclear.. how about we DON'T go there. that isn't a renewable source of energy anyway. nuclear would consist of using radioactive elements such as plutonium and uranium. last time i checked you can't grow more of that anywhere. about the soy beans, hi! i'm from the midwest. that's where we grow all your [censored] soy beans and corn to try to run machines. let me tell you, with that, you still have to have oil. not as much, but you still have to mix the corn/soy beans with refined oil. so yeah.. don't talk to me about renewable energy.
second of all: communism in theory is a totally ridiculous idea. you can quote Churchill all you want, but it doesn't change the fact communism has and will never work on a large scale. the whole idea of everyone getting the same amount of money for different jobs is just plain bullshit. if you work harder than some other guy you should get paid more. if your job requires more skill and schooling than some other guy you should get paid more. that is why communism is crap. it is NOT fair and definitly NOT effective. if that were true, don't you think more countries would be completely communist? yeah.. they would. but the truth is that it can't work. not even in theory.
"when you look around, you can't tell me honestly you're happy with what you see"
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#29110 - 03/27/03 06:03 AM
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OK, Honestly, I'm not really sure whether most of the people here are being sarcastic, or if you guys are that [censored] up. Holy [censored], if you are that [censored] up and do believe what you are saying, I can see why the US is such a [censored] up, violent culture. All you have been talking about is saving $5 here and there and being greedy [censored]. Ever think about the people being killed in Iraq and around the rest of the world because greedy people like you want to save a few dollars. Most people havn't even mentioned the fact that the war will kill thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. US greed baffles me. And fleshy, Communism means that everyone does the most and best work they can and receives what they need, not all equal. If I need this amount of money to live properly, I get it, if someone else needs a different amount, they get it and everyone works to their fullest capabilities. And it's true, it is the fairest form of government in my opinion.
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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