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#8467 - 05/22/03 04:58 PM Just Started
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Hello, my name is Brant.

I have just started hacking programming so on and so forth. I mean really JUST started today and found this site from hackers.com. If you look at my profile you will notice that I am a student in High school. I can beat anyone at my school on any test they throw at me. I want to go to a better school that actually teach me something that i already dont know. My teachers are all idiots. They use the books with answers in them. I mean they dont even try, all they do is copy it out of the book and hand it to us. I'm in the 12th grade because they allowed me to skip two grades.
Anyways, I just wanteed to say hello to everyone out there and that this will be a new hobby for me. I want to LEARN everything that I can take in. If anyone wants to show me a few tricks or give anysites that might help I would greatly appreciate it.

Well thank you for reading this,
Brant


I may be young but I am the smartest in my entire school.
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#8468 - 05/23/03 05:36 AM Re: Just Started
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#8469 - 05/23/03 10:21 PM Re: Just Started
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"I may be young but I am the smartest in my entire school"

if your trying to learn about computers your grades are pretty much meaningless. Quite possibly just me but your coming of as arrogant bordering on annoyance. You didn't have to come in here proclaiming how stupid you arent, a simple "im new point me in the right direction" would have done

I just have a real problem with bragging about intelligence with grades as the proof.


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#8470 - 05/24/03 12:03 AM Re: Just Started
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Well if you want to learn, read as much as you can, spend as much as you can in the library, or at home, in your own set up computer lab experimenting with all of it till you understand it all. And then maybe one day you'll understand it's not about destroying, but about knowledge,

but anyways, who am I? Just a lamer who knows shit.


Never argue with fools... They will only drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience...
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#8471 - 05/25/03 11:24 AM Re: Just Started
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Howdy, If you want to learn everything i propose you download any irc client and join the UGN Security server and also read up on rfc's (Required for comment documents, they explain different protocol's and so on) and also find your self a programming tool like vb or any C or C++ complier out there.

Words of advice never use a program if you don't know what it does, and research your post befor u post.)

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#8472 - 05/25/03 05:19 PM Re: Just Started
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Request for Comments. All those links I gave are RFCs for protocols you should know.

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#8473 - 05/28/03 03:04 PM Re: Just Started
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Thanks for those links perg. I've been reading them non-stop for the last couple of days and I'm still not even half way through that directory. I have a very low attention span :p . Anyway I want to stress to you Crazywire there's a huge difference between a hacker and someone who brakes into computers/servers for instance. If you just want to break into servers you could just hang around some huge news groups. Wait for someone to release an exploit, read it's documentation and then abuse the exploit. But I trust that you will make the decision not to go down that path. Anyway the most important thing you need is commitment actually I can't really talk. Don't necessarily read hacking based security that's what I did when I first started out, and all I learnt was how to use a few exploits. Rather try and gain an understanding of how the Internet/computers work, gain an understanding of programming and then one day it will suddenly click. Oh yeah, do computer science if your not already doing it. I find it helps a lot my teacher knows a lot but then as you say if they just read out of the text book you might find it rather elementery. That's all I've got to say. Peace.


Computer games do not affect kids, i mean, if Pacman affected us, we'd all be running around in dark rooms, eating magic pills, and listening to repetitive electronic music...
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#8474 - 05/28/03 06:22 PM Re: Just Started
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Exploits don't last too long, because vulnerabilities get pathced up. TCP/IP is in such widespread use that it'd be very difficult to get rid of it. Understand it thoroughly, and you've got information that won't die for years.

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#8475 - 05/28/03 06:56 PM Re: Just Started
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Read about TCP/IP and then take some time to read about IPv6. Soon it will be common place, and it is built up much more security-oriented. So having a firm knowledge of how it works, before it hits it big, may be a huge advantage.

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#8476 - 06/01/03 02:35 AM Re: Just Started
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FYI: none of those serialcoder links worked for me <img src=" title="" src="graemlins/pissed.gif" /> [shit]


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#8477 - 06/01/03 02:53 AM Re: Just Started
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SR is offline. They are on his personal website. When he gets back online they will work fine.

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#8478 - 06/13/03 03:24 PM Re: Just Started
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Back online. The website is anyway. There may be a few more down periods while cords are arranged to more permanent setups. The links work fine.


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#8479 - 06/13/03 06:50 PM Re: Just Started
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Hello any and everybody out there I am so confused on where and how to start so many suggestions. I have been reading on red hat linoux, the links on this board, and unix. can some one tell me what exactly I need to read, what languages I need to learn etc. This Is A Disstress Call I Have Been Reading Alot And Its All Starting To Just Run into each other. THE WIRE


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#8480 - 06/13/03 09:40 PM Re: Just Started
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There is no one place to start. Reading everything and anything you can get your hands on is exactly what you have to do. If you think that all of us have learned the same things, in the same order, then you are seriously misguided. If it interests you then read about it, and ask any questions you might have. If you don't like it then leave it and go onto something else. But reading is the right thing to do.

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#8481 - 06/13/03 10:15 PM Re: Just Started
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Step 1) Learn Definitions

Port, IP Address, Daemon/Server/Service, Client, Exploit, Backdoor, Trojan, Domain Name

Step 2) Understand what the Internet Is

What ports standard services typically listen on. What the DNS system is and how it works for you. How information is exchanged over the internet. Learning various protocols like HTTP, SMTP, FTP, an understanding of what Telnet is, and SSH.

Step 3) Learn Basic Networking

Networking hardware such as ethernet cards, modems, switches, routers and how they're configured, common network setups. Firewalls, and why they work. Know how TCP, UDP, PING, and DHCP works and learn more about DNS. Learn how routing is done over a network. Know what a subnet mask is. Know what a Gateway is. Learn how to retrieve the networking information for a given computer.

Step 4) Learn about Hacking/Programming

Go to security news sites and learn about common exploits that are in use today. Many exploits will require some programming knowledge, but not all.

I didn't go through this process, but I recommend it. My process is just doing what I want to do. I specialize in several areas because I've researched them because I wanted to accomplish some specific goal, but the bulk of my knowledge comes second-hand. I either figure things out from what I already know, hear it talked about, or happen to read it written about. It is amazing how much I've learned at this board. Maybe nothing really special at any one time... But bits of pieces make themselves known to me from time to time that all add up.


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#8482 - 06/13/03 10:40 PM Re: Just Started
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Or you could do it like that :p

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#8483 - 06/15/03 04:17 PM Re: Just Started
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Thanks ant addittional help can be sent to me via e-mail {[email protected]}THE WIRE


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