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L.A banned "master/slave" term #38670
11/25/03 11:44 AM
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Claim: The County of Los Angeles has requested that equipment vendors avoid using the industry term "Master/ Slave" in product descriptions and labelling.

Status: True.

Origins: Social changes of our era have been accompanied by linguistic changes: as

discrimination based upon race, gender, or physical condition has become less socially acceptable, we began to frown upon the use of pejorative terms associated with race, moved towards more gender-neutral usages of language (e.g., 'chairperson' instead of 'chairman'), and replaced terms for describing the disabled with less stigmatizing ones (e.g., 'mentally handicapped' rather than 'retarded').

Along with these linguistic changes have come tales of the "political correctness run amok" variety — cases where certain usages were deemed unacceptable merely because they bore a resemblance to terms now considered inappropriate, even though the usages had little or nothing in common with the now-inappropriate terms in a linguistic sense. For example, we've read of the 1999 incident in which a mayoral aide (temporarily) lost his job for using the word 'niggardly' in a staff meeting, even though the word's origins have nothing to do with race, and even though the aide used the word correctly (to mean 'miserly' or 'stingy'). Or we've heard the (possibly apocryphal) tale of a writer who was informed by his editor that his use of the hunting term 'duck blind' was unacceptable, as the preferred substitute for the latter word is now 'visually impaired.'

How far we should take this linguistic sensitivity to social issues has long been a subject of (often heated) debate. Can female members of the fire department be referred to by the traditional title of 'fireman,' or does true gender equality require that they be identified as 'firewomen'? Is the existence of separate gender words for the same concept itself a form of gender discrimination, requiring us to adopt a neutral term such as 'fireperson' for everyone? Or should we just chuck the whole thing and call everybody 'firefighters'? What one group sees as socially progressive, another group is bound to view as a needless discarding of the familiar and traditional.

Another example of this phenomenon surfaced recently in reference to 'master/slave,' a term commonly used in computing (and related industries) to describe the unidirectional control of one device or process by another. Equipment vendors who do business with Los Angeles County received a message in November 2003 from the county's Internal Services Department (ISD) informing them that "based on the cultural diversity and sensitivity of Los Angeles County," labeling or describing equipment with the term 'master/slave' is no longer acceptable:

Subject: IDENTIFICATION OF EQUIPMENT SOLD TO LA COUNTY

Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:21:16 -0800
From: "Los Angeles County"

The County of Los Angeles actively promotes and is committed to ensure a work environment that is free from any discriminatory influence be it actual or perceived. As such, it is the County's expectation that our manufacturers, suppliers and contractors make a concentrated effort to ensure that any equipment, supplies or services that are provided to County departments do not possess or portray an image that may be construed as offensive or defamatory in nature.

One such recent example included the manufacturer's labeling of equipment where the words "Master/Slave" appeared to identify the primary and secondary sources. Based on the cultural diversity and sensitivity of Los Angeles County, this is not an acceptable identification label.

We would request that each manufacturer, supplier and contractor review, identify and remove/change any identification or labeling of equipment or components thereof that could be interpreted as discriminatory or offensive in nature before such equipment is sold or otherwise provided to any County department.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance.

Joe Sandoval, Division Manager
Purchasing and Contract Services
Internal Services Department
County of Los Angeles


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To verify that this wasn't a hoax or an internal joke which mistakenly escaped to the wider world of the Internet, we called the Purchasing and Contract Services division for the County of Los Angeles, and they informed us that yes, they did issue this message, and yes, it was meant seriously. The representative we spoke with said that someone within the County bureaucracy — a person who probably didn't understand computer terminology — had taken offense at 'master/slave' references and complained to the board, whereupon the Internal Services Department was obligated to issue notification requesting that vendors refrain from using that terminology.

Whether this message reflects more a "socially progressive" change or one of the "needless discarding of the familiar and traditional" variety we couldn't say, but — much to the chagrin of several vendors who passed it along to us — the County of Los Angeles is apparently serious about it.

source: snopes


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Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38671
11/25/03 10:15 PM
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thats ridiculous, people overreact to much


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Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38672
11/25/03 11:25 PM
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I thought the term "master/slave" was pretty disturbing in itself when you're referring to computers. Always disoriented me when I saw it. Maybe "l33t d00d/zombie" would be a better choice? We do tend to overreact to "sensitive" words. Personally, I'm in favor of calling people what they want to be called. Honestly though, "niggardly" ? People need a dictionary, swearr.

Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38673
11/26/03 10:41 PM
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lol, such things only happen in the USA...


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Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38674
11/27/03 01:51 PM
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This is complete bullshit; The companies have been using those terms since probably before half the people who voted on that even existed... Why the [censored] should they have to change their "jargon" due to one [censored] county? I mean jesus christ, they were doin it far longer than anyone has given a [censored]...

[censored] blacks need to take the stick out of their [censored], not everything in this world revolves around them; becides, they weren't slaves, their ancestors were, they need to either shut the hell up or go visit the kkk...


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Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38675
11/27/03 09:39 PM
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ppl don't forget the past, they say they do then [censored] moan gripe, and cause more trouble. when there should just be a even, non-paranoid situation. No stress because I don't care about you, and you don't care about me. But you cross that line, and it's then hate. Then ppl start to show their dirt inside. It's probably worse then a matter of any fact. Ppl lie, but that's not just everything, ppl are multi-faced. It won't stop, people will just adapt. Like social X-men. Giz L.A. Sucks a [censored], don't jive on that, don't even let it phase you, they'll crack off the continent, and sink soon. But not soon enough I guess.


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Re: L.A banned "master/slave" term #38676
11/28/03 12:21 AM
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the thing that pisses me off is that because one county, of one state, of one country makes it so that companies around the world have to change their lingo just to satisfy one group of black guys... it's [censored] stupid.


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