#4687 - 07/12/04 02:34 AM
Re: who will you vote for ?
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jonconley
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We are not only a two party system. There are plenty of other parties (just sucks that it is so tough for smaller parties aside from those two). Sure, they probably won't get elected, but then atleast you are: 1] Being active instead of just bitching 2] Not voting for someone simply b/c lesser of two evils 3] Helping your party attract attention to issues and making the larger parties deal with themI am a member of the Libertarian Party www.lp.org . Here is a link to their standing on issues THE LINK ![[Linked Image]](http://badnarik.org/blog/images/shriekposter72_01.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.meervrijheid.nl/myfiles/badnarik.png)
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#4692 - 07/14/04 09:07 AM
Re: who will you vote for ?
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Gremelin
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In the USA we allow abortions on the grounds "if it's not breathing it's not alive"; this is so for every type of abortion (even partial birth; where the woman births the baby at full term and they kill it)... Therefore, as we have it now, if the man kills the pregnent woman he is charged with 1 murder for just killing her, it is overlooked that she's pregnent because of how abortions are defined. Therefore in order to go against how abortions work they have to make a new law to cover the pregnent woman case. It may be common sense, but pro-choice people just see it as a restriction on their choice to kill a living thing  ...
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#4703 - 07/19/04 08:44 PM
Re: who will you vote for ?
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jonconley
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Women's Right to VoteBoth the Prohibition and Socialist Parties promoted women's suffrage during the late 1800's. By 1916, both Republicans and Democrats supported it and by 1920, the 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote had been ratified. Child Labor LawsThe Socialist Party first advocated laws establishing minimum ages and limiting hours of work for American children in 1904. The Keating-Owen Act established such laws in 1916. Immigration RestrictionsThe Immigration Act of 1924 came about as a result of support by the Populist Party starting as early as the early 1890's. Reduction of Working HoursYou can thank the Populist and Socialist Parties for the 40-hour work week. Their support for reduced working hours during the 1890's led to the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938. Income TaxIn the 1890's, the Populist and Socialist Parties supported a "progressive" tax system that would base a person's tax liability on their amount of income. The idea led to ratification of the 16th Amendment in 1913. Social SecurityThe Socialist Party also supported a fund to provide temporary compensation for the unemployed in the late 1920's. The idea led to the creation of laws establishing unemployment insurance and the Social Security Act of 1935. "Tough on Crime"In 1968, the American Independent Party and its presidential candidate George Wallace advocated "getting tough on crime." The Republican Party adopted the idea in its platform and the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 was the result. (George Wallace won 46 electoral votes in the 1968 election. This was the highest number of electoral votes collected by a third party candidate since Teddy Roosevelt, running for the Progressive Party in 1912, won 88 votes.) Link for more information about why 3rd parties are good is here No need to respond to any of this Giz. This is for the interested people out there, you said your point and won't be changing your mind or opening it to any other ways of thinking.
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#4704 - 07/20/04 10:39 AM
Re: who will you vote for ?
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Red Mage
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Child Labor Laws The Socialist Party first advocated laws establishing minimum ages and limiting hours of work for American children in 1904. The Keating-Owen Act established such laws in 1916. I know they're not likely to change because everyone feels bad for those poor kids with jobs, but I REALLY hate these laws. "Oh sorry, you're a little kid (I'm 15), so you can't get a job cuz people would feel bad about it!";"But I want some [censored] money!!";"That's nice, we can't hire you till you're 16." Social Security The Socialist Party also supported a fund to provide temporary compensation for the unemployed in the late 1920's. The idea led to the creation of laws establishing unemployment insurance and the Social Security Act of 1935. Social security is so stupid. If anyone took the time they could make more money than social security gives you, but there's no choice. Don't mean to be bashing you jonconley, just mentioning a couple things. Thanks to whoever moved this to the "debates and rants" section 
Those who say do not know. Those who know do not say.
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#4707 - 07/20/04 11:10 PM
Re: who will you vote for ?
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sinetific
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There is no point in voting for anyone else you idiot. You vote for someone else and kerry stands a chance to win... Any vote against Bush is a vote for Kerry...
In my state they say just the opposite, every vote for an independant is a vote for Bush. That Nader is just drawing votes from Kerry. They even have Republicans out getting signatures to get him on the ballot just to draw votes from Kerry. How is that for dirty pool? The Lacy Peterson law opens doors for pro-lifers. That is why Kerry voted against it. This whole pro-life/pro-choice situation bothers me. To me it seems that Democrates should be pro-life while republicans should be pro-choice. I mean Republicans want less government less taxes and people to take responsibility for thier actions. They are. They are choosing to take responsibility and terminate thier pregnancy instead of creating more of a burden on the state. While Democrates don't mind creating more taxes and governmental institutions to take care of the single mothers and welfare recipients. Bush's education reform sucked. His healthcare reform (medicare/medicaid) is crappy too. I do believe the voting for "lesser of two evils" is a misconception when they are both actually the same evil. Skull and Bones. <sarcasm>I'm going to vote for Bush so I can live to see WWIII</sarcasm> But actually if you think the economy is bad right now or even if you think it's good, just imagine when the war is over and all the soldiers come home and they need jobs too...
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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