#8834 - 09/16/03 04:01 PM
Re: Booting to DOS in XP
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Originally posted by jonconley: MS released its first os as MS-DOS.
win3.1, 95, 98, ME all run on top of DOS. Granted for each version, DOS was stripped down and more was done at windows level.
I believe NT 4.0 runs on the NT kernel and not DOS, hence the name.
Now 2000 and XP both run on an NT Kernel (maybe where mornse was thinking NTFS from) and not on underlying DOS. So there is no way to actually get to a "real" dos on either of these systems, just an emulated version.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Win3.x series This wasn't an OS. It was a shell, like XWindows and Gnome on linux. The OS was MS-DOS. Win95,Win98,WinME The computer booted with DOS, but then DOS terminated and Windows took over. On these operating systems you can prevent windows from starting and just stick to the MS-DOS prompt. After windows took over MS-DOS was emulated. WinNT,Win2K,WinXP,Win2K3 the computer booted straight into the windows operating system. This resulted in a faster boot time. MS-DOS is still emulated. You no longer have the ability to boot into DOS since DOS is no longer the first OS to load on boot. And finally... You can ALWAYS boot into DOS on any computer no matter what it is. The only catch is that you need to have the proper drivers. You can boot into DOS from a CD or a floppy disk. If you have NTFSDOS by sysinternals.com then you'll have the drivers that DOS will use to mount and recognize how to operate NTFS partitions. NTFSDOS is the result of reverse engineering the NTFS recovery disk you can get off of a Windows 2000 installation CD.
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#8838 - 09/17/03 11:28 PM
Re: Booting to DOS in XP
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I never said that NTFS and DOS were related, I just said that I thought when installing windows XP you could choose your file system, and if you chose Fat32, that maybe then you could boot straight in to DOS without the need of a boot disk and NTFSDOS. Is that correct? Um... Say what? I'm not sure I understand what you are saying at all here  There is absolutley no DOS to boot into in XP regardless of the filesystem.. The only way you can make an XP machine boot into DOS is with a DOS boot floppy. Other than that, there is no DOS anywhere near XP, not even a little bit. Or am I missing what you are saying totally Mornse? Infinite
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#8846 - 10/04/03 05:49 AM
Re: Booting to DOS in XP
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I hate you. As soon as I wrote my post I thought that exact same thing. I don't understand it myself. But I have known of an example of a program that wouldn't run on NTFS but would on FAT32. I have no clue as to why it makes a difference other than low level drive accessing. On the other hand maybe my noodle is mixing stuff up like the dyslexic I imagine myself to be and am actually thinking about the capability of access Win2k drives fromatted in FAT32 from a linux or 98 partition. Originally posted by jonconley: There is an option to run certain programs as if they were in another version of Windows to preserve some compatibility.
However, I find it odd that any program would have issues with the file system. Isn't that something that should occur at a lower level than the applications would have to deal with. Something that should be handled via the operating system itself? I am sure w/ all you have handled with coding for windows, you can give some examples of why/why not SR.
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Okay WTF?
by HenryMiring on 09/27/17 08:45 AM
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